[Swamp_Yankee]

A friend gave me a case of his reloads when he had To quit shooting. GunClub hulls. Are there any potential size issues If I reload these with my Fiocchi or win 209 primers.

 

[DonW217]

This table has been uploaded here any number of times. According to this you should be fine with the Fiocchi, no so much with the Win.

 

[slickhead]

Just remember that once you go bigger you can never go back to smaller.

Primers that is!!!!!
Hehe!!

 

[mg1polo]

A friend gave me a case of his reloads when he had To quit shooting. GunClub hulls. Are there any potential size issues If I reload these with my Fiocchi or win 209 primers.

Stay with Win Primers and you'll be fine.
If you switch to euro size, you'll need to keep using them or your American sized primers will fall out.
MG

 

[sandcountyalmanac]

I've loaded Gun Club hulls for years using Win 209 primers without a problem.

 

[mg1polo]

This table has been uploaded here any number of times. According to this you should be fine with the Fiocchi, no so much with the Win.

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Your reading the table incorrectly.
All American primers are close enough that you will have no problems interchanging based on size.
All the euro primers are larger!
The above statement only pertains to size.
Different primers are hotter than others.
Only load primers per the data.
MG

 

[Swamp_Yankee]

Your reading the table incorrectly.
All American primers are close enough that you will have no problems interchanging based on size.
All the euro primers are larger!
The above statement only pertains to size.
Different primers are hotter than others.
Only load primers per the data.
MG

But if you have used a larger prime like the Fiocchi thin I think tje Win prime will fall out or be loose in that same hull. Correct??

 

[sandcountyalmanac]

But if you have used a larger prime like the Fiocchi thin I think tje Win prime will fall out or be loose in that same hull. Correct??

Yes, there is a greater likelihood that will happen.

 

[mg1polo]

But if you have used a larger prime like the Fiocchi thin I think tje Win prime will fall out or be loose in that same hull. Correct??

Correct, once you use any Euro primer, any American sized primer will not work.
MG

 

[slickhead]

Exactly.
Once you go euro there is no turning back.
Remember when Redd Foxx said that after a 100 women switched to Camel,s 98 of them never switched back to men!!

Lmao!!!

 

[dkals]

This product states it will recondition and tighten primer pockets. I have no experience with the product but maybe others can comment if they have. Supposedly you can go back to Winchester primers after using Cheddite primers.

Ultimate Primer Punch 12 Gauge | Creative Reloading Solutions

 

[DD89521]

Ultimate Primer Punch 12 Gauge | Creative Reloading Solutions

To bad, only works on a Mec.

This what I got to fix loose primer pockets on my 410 AA Hulls; Universal Primer Pocket Conditioner 10ga - .410-ballisticproducts.com

 

[dkals]

I reached out to Creative Reloading Solutions and specifically asked. Can someone go back to Win, Fed or Rem primers using after using Cheddite's with the Ultimate Prime Punch? Here is the reply.

"The answer to that is yes but only if the hull has a soft primer pocket such as Winchester AA, Remington Gun Clubs, Nitro, STS etc. If the hulls you are trying to re-condition have a solid hard plastic primer pocket then the answer is No. Those hulls are generally European or Mexican such as Rio. If you look down inside the hulls you can easily see the difference. Hope that answers your question. Best regards and thanks for your interest in my products. Rudy. CRS."

 

[mg1polo]

I reached out to Creative Reloading Solutions and specifically asked. Can someone go back to Win, Fed or Rem primers using after using Cheddite's with the Ultimate Prime Punch? Here is the reply.

"The answer to that is yes but only if the hull has a soft primer pocket such as Winchester AA, Remington Gun Clubs, Nitro, STS etc. If the hulls you are trying to re-condition have a solid hard plastic primer pocket then the answer is No. Those hulls are generally European or Mexican such as Rio. If you look down inside the hulls you can easily see the difference. Hope that answers your question. Best regards and thanks for your interest in my products. Rudy. CRS."

If Rio was Mexican, maybe what Rudy has told you might hold water. Since Rio's are
from Spain, nothing he has to say really matters.
MG

 

[JimmyK]

I use the Fiocchi primers in my MEC 9000E and my Spolar Gold loader... I personally do not see a problem with Win 209 or Fiocchi 209 primers. Never had any problems with primers not going off in a AA hull I just buy the Fiocchi primers because they are a few dollars cheaper

 

[dkals]

If Rio was Mexican, maybe what Rudy has told you might hold water. Since Rio's are
from Spain, nothing he has to say really matters.
MG

He mixed up one country for another. No one is infallible.

 

[mg1polo]

He mixed up one country for another. No one is infallible.

He's Full of crap!
Read this and you'll be fine.

I use the Fiocchi primers in my MEC 9000E and my Spolar Gold loader... I personally do not see a problem with Win 209 or Fiocchi 209 primers. Never had any problems with primers not going off in a AA hull I just buy the Fiocchi primers because they are a few dollars cheaper

Correct, once you use any Euro primer, any American sized primer will not work.
MG

Of course you are more than welcome to attempt anything you want, they’re your reloads.

MG

 

[mg1polo]

I use the Fiocchi primers in my MEC 9000E and my Spolar Gold loader... I personally do not see a problem with Win 209 or Fiocchi 209 primers. Never had any problems with primers not going off in a AA hull I just buy the Fiocchi primers because they are a few dollars cheaper

Jimmy,
Read the post, no one said that you can't put a Euro primer in an American hull or that it would not fire. It's the size that becomes an issue. American primers are a few thousands narrower. When you put an American Primer in a Euro hull or into an American hull that has already been used with a Euro primer, attempting to use an American primer will have loose issues.
MG

 

[slickhead]

Jimmy
Please understand that when ever a hole has been wallowed out and stretched by something bigger it won't ever be the same again! It will be a looser fit!

Hehe!!

 

[320090T]

I have policed our range and seen lots of steel based shells with tape holding the primers in.