The folks here at P/W would like to address the concerns of our customers.We did not build the new Patriot to replace the 800Plus as it is and always will be our #1 machine. We felt there was a need for a newer and more modern day machine.The new features on the patriot will not interchange or adapt to the other machines we sell.We do listen to our customers concerns and needs.We feel we have addressed those concerns with the new Patriot machine.Some of its features will not appeal to all nor will they satisfy all but we feel we did our best job to try and satisfy most. If anyone has a question feel free to call us at 1 800 732-0706. Dick Medley President/Wayne Riddle General Manager/Bruce Herby Sales Manager/Tawnia Gerkin Technical support & Repair Manager. P.S The Patriot is being shown now at the Silver Dollar Trap Club in Odessa,Florida by Jim Cunningham.