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With George Stephanopoulus the illustrious speaker of the house,,,,said, "STEPHANOPOULOS: Hundreds of millions of dollars to expand family planning services. How is that stimulus?

PELOSI: Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost. The states are in terrible fiscal budget crises now and part of what we do for children's health, education and some of those elements are to help the states meet their financial needs. One of those - one of the initiatives you mentioned, the contraception, will reduce costs to the states and to the federal government.

STEPHANOPOULOS: So no apologies for that?

PELOSI: No apologies. No. we have to deal with the consequences of the downturn in our economy."

Just WHO does she think they will be paying into SS for you 40 year olds if people stop having babies,,,,along with the need for other services,,,,is she as crazy as a loon or just an ignorant idiot,,,,

Grammie was right again!!!!
 

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Trapman,,,,they are a big part of the problem with the states' budget shortfall,,,,1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year by state governments.
Verify at: http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0..html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
Verify at http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
Verify at: http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US .
Verify at: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S. from the Southern border.
Verify at: Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National policy Institute, estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'
Verify at: http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances to their countries of origin.
Verify at: http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One million sex crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States.'
Verify at: http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml


The total cost just for this is a whopping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.

The problem is illegal aliens are a drain on our resources,,,,not an inflow to the GDP or the SS system!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Seriously, my wife has a fashionably-liberal aunt who claims violent crime is going down because the criminals aren't being born anymore...they're being aborted.
 

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Oh, my, what are all the judges and lawyers and corrections officials going to do?

Don't tell me there will be job losses in the penal industry!

HM
 

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buzz,,,,bet she voted hussein as well,,,,they only abort the bad ones just like we only want "common sense gun laws"!!!!
 

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Hey, entitlement for contraception or abortion means fewer liberal welfare voters.
 

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Hey BigdogTX,

I was just being facetious. I am totally against illegal imigration for the reasons you mentioned plus many more. Many hospitials in my area of the country are in dire financial straights (Bankruptcy) because of the illegals. Many OB-GYNs are delivering up to 14 babies (of illegal aliens) per day yet not getting compensation for their efforts. I could go on and on as you did, but I don't have the time.

Hit 'em hard
 

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Pelosi is a close deep sunk eyed fool. She can not take a leak without getting pole numbers. She has never had to do sh*t for anything other than politics and power and for some reason she has got every male in DC hood winked and cowed. I guess it is like tenure in the school system, once you are there long enough you can be an absolute dumbass and still get promoted and get paid and no one can fire you. ( Sweet Deal).

I can not type here what I WANT TO SAY ABOUT her! gawd all mighty, please help us.

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Listened to Tom Tancredo on one of the local talk shows this morning. He said Obama wants to creat 2 million jobs. Further stated what's 2 million jobs when the U.S. lets in 138,000 legal immigrants per month. Illegal immigration counts for how many more? It's like shoveling s--- against the tide..

As for SS, Pelosi knows SS will not be there for the younger generations. She will not be accountable and either will the rest of these pols on a bipartisan basis. They'll all be dead when it hits the fan....
 

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How in the world has our political system become so corrupt. You better take a look where some of the bailout money is going. Fox news wants you to call you Senators to let them know that some of the tarp money is going to ACORN.
So much corruption and so little justice. B12
 

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There is a very simple solution to fixing Social Security. We borrow from the Congressional Retirement Fund! (or just suggest it) Ed Nichols
 
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