I have two a 12 ga. And a 20 ga. I loaded at least 50,000 rounds on the 12 and never hardly a hick up. I made higher tubes and could get a bag of shot in the tube of course it had to have extra support but it was a great Reloader still have it just retired her when I got my mec hydro . Thats my baby now you ought to see the shot holder on it holds 3 bags of shot with no weight on the press it self. If you keep the apex clean she will load great shells for you. Gary.