I lived through the time period of NSCA [1989-2001] that Scott speaks about in the podcast. Knew all the names he mentioned, served on the Advisory Council representing Remington and fully agree with his evaluation of the "political" aspects of the sport.
Much the same can be said about the history of the ATA management except that organization has a 3x+ longer one. In any amateur association there will be agendas galore and opinions on what to "do" about growth and participation.
I also remember the "...15 year old, snotty kid..." that Scott mentioned and had a round with him, myself. But he has a good head on his shoulders now and has had some very good marketing ideas over the years. His experience with Fiocchi sponsorship and their reaching a market share goal has happened within EVERY industry company at some time or another; nothing new or unique.
All it takes is money, time and commitment over the long haul to grow any of our shooting sports but part of the 'charm' of all of them is the "amateur" status. Without that, what would we all have to bitch about??
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Scott Hanes