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Was reading my old home town newspaper (Chatham,NJ) online & it mentioned that an off duty cop who was intoxicated at the time had lost his back pack with a loaded 45 pistol in it. He was suspended. In NC, your CCW is void if you have any alcohol in your system. Are LEO's allowed to have a weapon in their possession if they have any alcohol. I remember that NYC leo's are required to carry when they are off duty--guess they are all tea-totallers'

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I spent three years as a police officer in the mid-1970s and had a fellow officer loose his sidearm in a busy shopping mall during the holiday shopping season while on duty! He had attempted to fit his issued holster to his revolver better by soaking the holster in water but didn't do it right and wound up with a holster that was way too big for his gun.

He responded to a retail theft complaint at a large mall. Just before he arrived, the teenage suspect got away from the store manager and ran into the mall. My colleague took off in the direction everyone said the kid ran and his gun fell out of its holster - and the officer kept running. When I arrived, the store manager was standing guard over the revolver while a crowd of people stood around pointing at it.

I picked it up, emptied it and put it in my coat pocket. When the other officer returned - without the kid, of course - I handed him his gun, which he put back in his holster. Later, I met him elsewhere and gave him his ammo back. He didn't even know the gun was empty - the weight difference should have been obvious, I'd think.

This was a veteran officer who was a shift supervisor. That is but one example of why I always chose to believe that he benefited from his father being the township manager. The same guy had me perform a breath test on an obviously intoxicated driver with an expired tester and, when I was a rookie, instructed me to charge someone who I caught attempting to break into a closed business with loitering and prowling at nighttime, a charge that only applies to occupied structures. The suspect had recently been released from our county prison, where he had been incarcerated for a burglary conviction, but walked out of his preliminary hearing laughing.

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In NC, your CCW is void if you have any alcohol in your system."
Phil, that's not true. You can't be consuming liquor and you can't be "under the influence." i.e. drunk. There's nothing in the rules about having alcohol in your system.
 

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Dick, the instructor who gave my class, said any amount of alcohol, could be considered under the influence---this is a different threshold than DUI. The risk isn't worth it.

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I was a police officer for 8 years. In Ill. One time I was on an escorted bank run and of course was being escorted by the duty seargent. He was driving. I had just finished my rookie year at this time. Pulled up in ftont of the bank (During Noon Hour of the Day of course) At this time everything was issued to you including the gun belt and holster. The holster was a swivel type and at this time we are allowed to do a double park. Started getting out of the squad when all of a sudden my holster falls off right into the street just to the side of a passing dumptruck. Driver was stopped and I looked up he was looking down and laughing his head off. I retrived the gun and holster and shut the door and told the Seargent he had to make the drop off. My holster had fallen off. He commenced to laugh very uproryously. Said ok. He did the drop and came back. I told him I felt like I was just a little mouse. Bought my own Gun and belt and holster and never had this kind of problem arrise ever and never. Funny now but then not so. (Rich.inAz.orinnameonly)
 
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