use them by the thousands and not had trouble and will continue to use them. You may have other issues. By duds do you mean it did not light at all or you got a funny sounding shell. If the shell sounded funny you may have cocked the wad base upon inserting into the hull. Pretty common thing to do when I see any coming off
press with a wrinkle or a bulge into the junk box they go. Most still will light but I will use them for practice, or if they are real bad they get cut apart with the shell cutter.
20 gauge 18.4 Long Shot - Windjammer Wad - STS Hull
I weight all my powder so that's not the problem.
The duds sound like the primer is not firing the powder.
After the dud you can see unused powder in the barrel
Thanks Gary Domi.
Gary, that sounds more like a mechanical issue. LS is not the cleanest powder in the world, but if it lights at all ... there should not be much/any unburned powder in the barrel.
Regardless of how they sounded, did the shot break the bird? the wad go past your shoelaces? etc.
Check for your primers may have gotten wet, or maybe sprayed with WD-40 or something. Shells may have been wet? Condensation? yanno, from inside an A/C house to you hot, humid garage and you filled them up right quick?
A 'fizzler' primer will cause what you described, but they don't much happen out-of-the-box ... and NEVER 6 in 25.
Another possible explanation is wet powder. Did you leave the lid off the jug, or leave it in your unplugged-up loader for a few weeks? Powder WILL absorb water, and it can be both sporadic and hard to light.
I bought 5,000, gave 3000 away. Yes I had a lot of no fires and especially in cold weather not to mention they enlarge the primer hole so you cannot go back to federals or win or remmys. I consider them junk
Nobelsport 209 primers will stretch primer pockets. Not a problem if you keep using them in that hull. They are harder than American primers, i.e., unreliable with a light-hitting firing pin. Same goes for Wolf 209 primers (though the Wolf primer does not stretch pockets). I like Cheddite 209 primers as an economical substitute for Winchester 209s.
Just opened my latest case of Noble Sport's .... that makes over 25,000 so far. Can only remember one misfire. Was it the primer or something else ...dont know...was in the middle of a shoot and no time to check. Shot them when in every type of weather...hot, cold, wet, dry.....no problems.
Load - (very tight pattern)
18.4 Claydot Powder;
Noble Sport Primer;
Downrange XL-1 Wad;
1250 fps @9000psi
Do they stretch the pocket? I dont know or care...the last two primers I would buy is a Win or Rem. They are so overpriced with NO performance advantage....what's the purpose?
I have loaded many 1000's.... I have had issues in really cold weather... but I only hunt in cold so I just quit using them for hunting loads in cold weather. I have had no issue w firing but I do watch to make sure they dont get too deep... seems like they like a good hard pop from the firing pin to go off...