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Or Purgatory? Limbo? Everyone goes to Heaven... regardless of behavior?

God didn't cast anyone out of heaven? What about good behavior to get to heaven?

Selective immigration to above?

Blame God for separating Nations in the first place?

And why don't we all speak Spanish?

'Study, pray, vote,' Pope tells Americans ahead of elections

Not Christian to exclude immigrants? Seriously?

Is pro abortion, Christian? Lies? Infidelity?

What happened to, "If my requests are not granted, Russia will scatter her errors throughout the world provoking wars and persecutions of the Church?"

When did the Church get bought out and by which faith? I've been away but didn't think I missed that much....

Migrants made the countries they were living in.....and the Pope was brought up in a limited information country in South America.

Is that another, "What you talkin about, Willis ?" moment?
 

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Notice how the pope bitches about global warming (rides around in his own jet) the poor syrian refugees dire predicament (houses a whopping 8 people in the whole Vatican City) musta cost them a hundred bucks, and supports without reservation the (pro abortion) murdering more millions, than mao, hitler. and stalin put together hillary clinton for U.S. president! That's a big three outa three. Let's hear it for the hypocrite in the white hat!! what's next support the poor church pedophiles and send them to boys camp for the summer. Give us a break. Take a hike Pontius Pilot the sink is over there next to the toilet, go wash your blood stained hands bub and search your soul.
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Why did the College of Cardinals elect Pope Francis..
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To prove that they had a sense of humor!
 

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He didn't really favor one over the other...by saying Trump wasn't Christian was he saying he was Jewish (reports to the Father)? Or non religious? Or other i.e. agnostic?

The enemy's idea is to turn our systems and beliefs against us...starting with our belief about immigration?

My understanding was that twenty six priests total were accused out of hundreds of vocations maybe thousands.

While some religious have a Religion that condones this unusual (despicable IMHO) behavior.
 

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The pope is a a humanitarian, he is lacking in the theology department. He makes people feel good, even if he is in error with is own denominations theology.
 

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But he was elected to be Peter the embodiment and defender of the Catholic faith. He should have reviewed the job description and duties and goals, like anyone in a executive position does. Not be a populist, or self proclaimed world advocate for socialism change in selected countries governments. He should confine his actions to the spiritual theater of operations, as that is what got elected to do. And frankly as a Roman Catholic I think it stinks of hypocrisy to preach to other countries they must take in the Syrian refugees when the Vatican takes in a measly 8 people! I was taught that you Lead from the Front to set the right example, for others to follow, or get out of the drivers seat, jump in the back and shut up and let others willing to take the risk and pay the price, drive. Respectfully
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Never liked this one from the beginning. Sticks his nose in and proves it leans left.

They messed up big time when they elected this guy. timothy Cardinal Dolan was sitting there waiting. He is the current Archbishop of NY. A very good hard core right guy.

That is most likely why he didn't get it. He is also young and they hate that. Plus, he is American and that will never happen.

All the old geezer Cardinals from the countries we bankroll continue to $hit on us every chance they get.
 

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There's a negative political element to the Vatican sometimes speaking for the Pope without consultation. Sometimes they don't get caught. Then again look at where the current Pope received his primary education, South America.
 

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The immigration plan seems like the "Are you Christian (progressive) Game" of the eighties. If you are Christian, then you have to this and that --respond in a certain way or you are not Christian or Christian enough to which I say, get out of here. You're not Christian for expecting this or that. But most are not anyways. Just a scam to get stuff. Being played for being a Christian.
Christian or not --you still have a right to say no --and don't tell me what my religion is or does.
 

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But he was elected to be Peter the embodiment and defender of the Catholic faith. He should have reviewed the job description and duties and goals, like anyone in a executive position does. Not be a populist, or self proclaimed world advocate for socialism change in selected countries governments. He should confine his actions to the spiritual theater of operations, as that is what got elected to do. And frankly as a Roman Catholic I think it stinks of hypocrisy to preach to other countries they must take in the Syrian refugees when the Vatican takes in a measly 8 people! I was taught that you Lead from the Front to set the right example, for others to follow, or get out of the drivers seat, jump in the back and shut up and let others willing to take the risk and pay the price, drive. Respectfully
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Hear, hear, well done.
 

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Maybe God is into the everyone gets a trophy mentality now. Everyone gets into heaven just for participating.
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Maybe God is into the everyone gets a trophy mentality now. Everyone gets into heaven just for participating.
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Nope, I just checked the field manual, no change has been made by the Commander.

The "wide is the path that leads to destruction" is still in there. As is" I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me"

Looks like participation awards have not been adapted.
 

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Now what exactly did Satan do to get thrown out of Heaven and banned forever? Anyone remember? He couldn't have killed anyone because everyone was a spirit. Right?
 

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Now what exactly did Satan do to get thrown out of Heaven and banned forever? Anyone remember? He couldn't have killed anyone because everyone was a spirit. Right?
He thought he was as good as g-d. His sin was pride. Thus the saying " Pride goeth before a fall."
 
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