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Here's the new wad for steel shot from Winchester.

Left - Unused.

Middle - Used and split down the middle so you can see the thickness of the two cups. One wad we've tried had a thin roof on the powder cup. No problem here. There's a trough inside the shot cup around the bottom that helps the petals open up real nice. You can just barely see the trough in the pic. We found lots of these wads just past the trap house after shooting them from 16 yards.

Right - Used. The way it compresses, it looks like a single use wad.

This is for 1 oz of steel.

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Joe -

I think most wads are designed to be single-use . . . which isn't to say that Don or Bob wouldn't scrounge some and boil/reuse them. LOL.

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Yeah. I did that in my younger/more thrifty years as well. AA wads were famous for their re-useability.
 

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No, but we're hoping they will be soon. We'll run out of the Vagners sometime in the spring.
 

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When compressed the legs fold up perfectly flat with just a small gap in the center and around the outside. The outside gap allows room for the floor of the shot cup that supports the petals to come back slightly & get the petal opening started - along with the trough on the inside it's no wonder the petals open so well.

The plastic is a little harder than what you get in Dusters, but not as hard as what we've seen in some wads for steel.

Nice wad, actually I call it a caddilac. Hope we can get some for testing.
 

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Compressed view from the outside.

I wonder if these wads degrade in sunlight. Wierd color, eh?
 

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Joe:

Straight wall or Tapered Hulls...

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They're made for straight walled hulls, but I've already loaded a few in tapered STS hulls and there's no more of a bulge than we've seen with any of the other straigh walled wads. Outside diameter is the same as the Vagners, but definitely bigger than Blue Dusters.

Care to guess what the price will be?
 

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Unless it is in the range of $10-12/1000, I'm sticking with loading my light steel loads with the Blue Dusters, WT-12 and Claybuster Wads, I presently own...

OK, I'll bite... how much?!

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I don't know what they'll be, but I bet you'll be shooting your Blue Dusters when/if these new AAs are released.

Here's another picture with an ounce of steel in each wad. Left is the MG-42, the AA, and the 1oz Vagner wad.

I noticed how short the shot cup is on the AA so I measured up 3 ounces on my scale. The AA will overflow pellets when you push the petals together. I'll probably cut back on enough pellets to fix this so as to keep my barrel from getting scratched, if these wads are ever released. This is the only drawback I can see.

Don't know of anything else to look at until we get some for testing.

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Will work on getting this Winchester wad again after the holidays. The plant is closed now.
 
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