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NRA-ILA | New Jersey: Urgent! Legislation Puts Shooting Ranges in Crosshairs

Shooting ranges as we know them may be a thing of the past if anti-gun politicians have their way in the Garden State. A pair of dangerous bills are scheduled to be heard in the Assembly Law & Public Safety Committee as early as Monday, December 5.

Require target shooters to produce a state issued ID along with an FID card or a purchase permit before using a range. New Jersey has been notorious for delaying issuance of those documents, and this bill would ban using ranges without such paperwork. In addition, the bills as written contain excessive “transfer” prohibitions where simply handing a gun between an instructor and a student would be a serious issue. Hunter safety courses, family days at the range, open houses and new shooter introduction events would all be jeopardized. Even law enforcement members would have a hard time using ranges to train or qualify.

This legislation would impose excessive staffing demands on ranges, putting them in a position where they have to monitor, enforce and scrutinize FID cards (which vary in appearance from jurisdiction to jurisdiction). These bills are silent on how the state intends to monitor compliance and at what cost. Facilities which are "unstaffed," and are a majority of ranges, would be forced to close. The bill would prevent non-residents from using New Jersey ranges and negatively impact these businesses. These unconscionable mandates could ultimately put ranges out of business.
 

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This bill is so bad on so many levels it's not even funny.
It actually even changes or ignores some of the laws on books. For example the FID cards are presently only needed to purchase a firearm and give you no right to carry the weapon. Under current law you could have purchased the firearms in other state and moved to NJ or have inherited the firearms from the death of a family member without ever having to have purchased them or have needed to have the FID card. These people would now need to apply for the purchase card even though they have no intention of purchasing anything. This would essentially change a "purchase" card into a "possession" card.

You would never be able to allow you child to shoot or learn firearms as they would not be in possession of a FID card. You could never take a friend or neighbor shooting, hunting, etc...

This is basically an all out assault on the rights of Gun owner in NJ. I'm in the process of writing letters now and hope others do as well.
My main hope however is that Chris Christie flat out puts a veto on this bill if it ever crosses his desk.
 

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One more reason to be happy that Trump sent crispy cream packing!
Maybe, but not for the reason you think.

He's still a GOP member and has put the veto on some gun bills in NJ. Had he been part of the Trump Cabinet we would have to elect a new governor and this could easily go Democrat and would surely sign the bill. With Christie still in office there is hope for a veto.
 

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This will catch on in several states, even if it doesn't pass this time around. Look to California where in the next few years a person will need a background check to borrow a gun from a friend at the local range or to go hunting. No bringing your non-shooting friends to the range. Forget about youth shooting programs with borrowed or club guns.

Rather brilliant concept and all in the name of GUN SAFETY.

But, it's the NRA that is the bad guy according to many shooters.....
 

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To me the most ironic part of this is that these are "suicide prevention" bills.

Do we currently have a problem with people committing suicide at NJ ranges? Are people that committing suicide with firearms going to ranges to practice their skills before shooting themselves? Is there an epidemic that we aren't aware of going on right under our noses? If not then why are ranges and programs that teach gun safety being targeted? If anything NJ should change the laws on the books to require people to take gun safety course at these very ranges before they are eligible to purchase the firearms. If you want less accidents to happen with firearms then you make sure people have proper training, not less.

Talk about doing the exact opposite of what's needed. Sheeze

If people don't shoot themselves when wanting to end their own life they will just use drug overdoses, helium bags, death by cop, high speed car crashes, etc... Someone wanting to end their own life will just pick a different solution and there are plenty of them.

Why can't politicians actually do something to reduce the real problem by investing in better mental health programs? Of course as usual, the left will use anything at all (no matter how outlandish) to infringe on gun rights because that's the REAL AGENDA.

Here's an article with additional information:
Sweeping Attack on New Jersey Ranges, Gun Clubs, & Everyone Who Uses Them
 

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Even if you are NOT a NJ resident, but someone who shoots there - go here to sign the petition. Join Us! - NRA ILA

You will need to enter your personal info, and then on the second page you will need to alter the letter it produces a bit to reflect that although you live outside of NJ, that you travel there to shoot (i.e., spend money), and that this law will STOP you from visiting NJ for commerce...
 

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Maybe, but not for the reason you think.

He's still a GOP member and has put the veto on some gun bills in NJ. Had he been part of the Trump Cabinet we would have to elect a new governor and this could easily go Democrat and would surely sign the bill. With Christie still in office there is hope for a veto.
I get all that.

But..... If the lard ass was truly as pro gun as he claims to be, things like this and Shaneen Allen would not happen.

My condolences to those of you who have to reside there.
 

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Your not kidding ShotStop.

Of all the stupid bills to have ever been proposed nationwide, this has got to be the stupidest (or right up there) of any in the nation as it targets the very places where law abiding citizens will go to learn and practice gun safety among peers or other experts.
 
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