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Obama Proposes Massive Gun Ban by Regulation Fiat
GOA prepares legislation to block implementation

In a “Friday media dump” designed to conceal its actions by releasing them after the press has left town, the Obama administration last week announced its intention to push two regulations which would massively expand the federal gun bans imposed on Americans.

“SEE A SHRINK; LOSE YOUR GUNS”

The first proposal -- from HHS -- would effectively say that federal health privacy laws (HIPAA) do not apply to the Second Amendment.

This isn’t the first time Obama has stuck his leering eyeballs into Americans’ medical records and private affairs. From its Orwellian government database on Americans’ health records to its voracious seizure of Americans’ phone records, the Obama administration can’t trample our personal privacy fast enough.

But HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ efforts to turn over personal mental health information to the government’s gun ban blacklist (NICS) is particularly loathsome.

Not to be outdone in the Sebelius/Holder “Mutt and Jeff act,” Attorney General Eric Holder -- currently being pursued for contempt of Congress -- intends to seize guns from persons subject to “outpatient commitments (even without a court order) (and) ... someone (deemed by some bureaucrat to be) lacking mental responsibility or deemed insane...”

More than 150,000 law-abiding veterans have already lost their constitutional rights -- with no due process whatsoever -- because they consulted a VA therapist about a traumatic incident in Iraq, Afghanistan, or the Balkans.

Under these new regulations, tens of millions of police and firemen with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder -- or people who, as kids, were diagnosed with Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder -- could lose their constitutional rights without any court order, merely because they sought a benefit under a federal program.

And you want to know the hidden agenda behind DOJ’s “commitment” language? We have a member in a rabidly anti-gun state. Many years ago, he was picked up by police and, without the approval of any court, sent to a mental facility overnight for “observation.” The mental facility found no mental problems and promptly released him.

However, many years later, as a result of that state’s anti-gun crackdown (which Holder is now trying to emulate), his name has been sent to the NICS system. He has lost his constitutional rights, and it will cost him tens of thousands of dollars (which he does not have) to get them back.

We believe this is unlawful under current law. But it will probably not be unlawful by the end of Holder’s regulatory proceedings.

What does Sebelius have to say about this? Well, she is surprisingly flip: “There is a strong public safety need for this information to be accessible to the NICS, and some states are currently under-reporting or not reporting certain information to the NICS at all.”

And this from the White House: “...when persons with a mental illness do not receive the treatment they need, the result can be tragedies such as homicide or suicide.”

But herein lies the problem: When Americans with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and Attention Deficit Disorder realize that nothing they say to their therapist is really confidential, they're not going to be seeking treatment for very long.

But there’s an even more fundamental problem: Last winter, Barack Obama decided that he would devote the first half of 2013 to the destruction of what he and his supporters characterized as “the gun manufacturers’ lobby.” Tens of millions of Americans let their senators and representatives know that they found Obama's views and Obama's legislation to be odious and offensive. As a result, it was rejected in the Democrat-controlled Senate.

So now, as has happened so many times before, Obama has set himself “above the law.” What could not be done using constitutional processes is now being slammed through by regulatory fiat.

The Justice Department and HHS regulations will now be submitted for “public comment and review.” But, as with everything else Holder and Sebelius do, this is little more than a sham.

Rather, our efforts will be to get Congress to defund these unconstitutional efforts. And we will start by submitting proposed legislation to friendly senators and representatives.

ACTION: Click here to contact your senators and representative. Ask them to cosponsor and support legislation which will block Barack Obama's unconstitutional gun bans.
 

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I hear goose-stepping sounds.
 

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Having or having had ADHD makes one so mentally incompetent that they should be banned from owning firearms?

This is exactly why this is the wrong administration to be working towards integrating mental records with NICS. This is not about public safety. This is about separating as many law-abiding citizens from firearms as possible. It started with the vets. And to think we had bozos here supporting the VA in their gun grab.
 

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If you are old enough, and willing to think back to the "bad old days" of the Soviet(EVIL)empire....you might remember that the cleanest way they found to eliminate opposition was to declare anyone who opposed the Supreme Soviet to be mentally unbalanced. Such declaration was made by GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRATS...
the apparatchik of the party. Their logic was that if you failed to embrace the "Worker's Paradise" you were, BY DEFINITION...mentally incompetent,and required institutionalizing.
Looks like Obama and Holder are bringing it all back...heck, they looked around and said "We've got a population STUPID ENOUGH to give us a second term...they'll go for this without a whimper..!!!"
 

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Well, I hope the govt. mandated lobotomies don't start again. I this administration will try any means to get their aggenda thru, whether by fiat, decree, or however you want to phrase it.
 

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Smyder,

I still remember very freshly when you were campaigning for the ban of high capacity mags.

Do you now realize there's an agenda far deeper than magazines?
 

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Shannon, it depends on whose ox is being gored, eh?
 

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“...when persons with a mental illness do not receive the treatment they need, the result can be tragedies such as homicide or suicide.” Obama

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Truth is that homicide and suicide can be the cause factor (temporary/ permanent depending on individual coping abilities) of mental illnesses and being a victim can cause more mental and 'retaliation' issues if help is not sought.

Furthermore, we have a God given right to self defense so that we do not have to cope with the issues related to being a victim which are described somewhere in the Bible.

God clearly states in the Bible that He does not want His followers to be victims, because victimhood changes their feelings toward Him.
 

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“...when persons with a mental illness do not receive the treatment they need, the result can be tragedies such as homicide or suicide.” Obama

The problem is Obama is gearing up towards making anyone seeking mental help to automatically trigger a ban on gun ownership. This then provides a serious disincentive to NOT seek mental help.

No one should have any rights stripped without proper due course of law. They need to be adjudicated mentally defective. Not automatically assumed to be, especially by government health care flunkies.

We have a problem with mental disturbed people having firearms, but the way Obama is going about solving it ensures that that many will unjustly have their rights removed under the onerous decree of prior restraint.
 

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Brian, America treads on thin ice when the Doctor who you are required to see is of a different cultural, religious or ethnic background and not of your choosing.
If you request an American born, American trained doctor will you be defined as a racist bigot then denied your rights? (Fort Hood - Hassan for example)

Psychologists can not even agree on what defines mental illness however, from what I've read this administration is not drawing a clear line between mental retardation and mental illness.

One is a chromosomal birth defect and the other can be acquired with negative life experiences or chemical reactions or imbalances or combinations.

So if you say mental illness can happen to anyone, this also plays into the liberal hand for gun banning. Some diagnosed mental illnesses can be controlled with drugs and treated like learning disabilites. (There's something not right about that boy.)

Mark Levin pointed out a while back, that 98% of mentally ill are harmless people for example people with foot fetish, smoking syndrome, weight/eating disorders or learning disabled.

Also, when people are released from hospitals are they cured and well, or prone to relapse or just sick left to get sicker? That says a lot about psychiatric care and doctors. And what about the public undiagnosed?

Levin made the comment that our elected leaders should be made to undergo psychiatric testing before they can be allowed to govern. That makes sense.

As for personal defense, each should be allowed to defend him or herself anyway possible.

All have a God given right to life but not to overt agression.

And are we as a Nation in danger of a psychologial take over as opposed to a military action or both? What safe guards do we have to keep this from happening? How are are tax dollars protecting us from psychologial abuses?

Also, if all guns are banned because of the mentally ill, then what is to stop an aggressive information gathering enemy nation from distributing guns into the hands of dangerous criminals in order to weaken and then overcome us?
 

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Bruce , the administration is going to make sure their is no next time. Hellary or Cristy will be a the helm. Afraid people sit on their hands to long. Bill
 
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