[DD89521]

Just saw a advertisement for a cleaner burning Red Dot and Green Dot powders in my current Handloader Magazine. Anyone seen or tried this out yet?
Wondering if burn rates are going to be different.

 

[Nebs]

I don't think it's new and I don't pay attention to the marketing hype put out by the powder people about "cleaner burning" or "softer shooting." It's all BS. And, if the burn rate was different, they would have to put out new data. Because they have not out new data, one can infer there was no change in the burn rate.

 

[mg1polo]

Just saw a advertisement for a cleaner burning Red Dot and Green Dot powders in my current Handloader Magazine. Anyone seen or tried this out yet?
Wondering if burn rates are going to be different.

Why would Alliant ever change the burn rates?
That would make every drop of loading data, INCORRECT!
The advertising B.S. that your now reading is only two years old.
MG

 

[Bob_K]

I believe Alliant made an attempt to make the powder granules more uniform in size, promoting a more even burn. That and it was time for a fresh new label for the can anyway.

 

[waverider]

Green Dot did change. I know a few people that have been using Green Dot in their 20 ga tubes for years, then cracked the tube(s) when the loaded the Cleaner Green Dot. Also it is interesting that Alliant dropped all 7/8 oz 20 ga Rem and Win hull loads the next year.

Jason

 

[mg1polo]

Green Dot did change. I know a few people that have been using Green Dot in their 20 ga tubes for years, then cracked the tube(s) when the loaded the Cleaner Green Dot. Also it is interesting that Alliant dropped all 7/8 oz 20 ga Rem and Win hull loads the next year.

Jason

That had nothing to do with the "New Green Dot" Alliant dropped all the 7/8th loading data years before the packaging change.
MG

 

[Nebs]

That had nothing to do with the "New Green Dot" Alliant dropped all the 7/8th loading data years before the packaging change.
MG

The dropping of 7/8 oz. green dot 20 ga. load data had more to do with defective 20 ga. tubes in 12 ga. guns than it had to do with any change the green dot formulation.

 

[mg1polo]

The dropping of 7/8 oz. green dot 20 ga. load data had more to do with defective 20 ga. tubes in 12 ga. guns than it had to do with any change the green dot formulation.

I agree, I've never stopped using green dot in my 20 gauge tubes and mine are over 20 years old.
MG

 

[waverider]

MG,

So you loading 7/8 oz of shot in Rem or Win hulls with the old data yet?

Jason

 

[mg1polo]

MG,

So you loading 7/8 oz of shot in Rem or Win hulls with the old data yet?

Jason

Yes,
I never stopped loading Green Dot in
20 gauge AA HS hulls.
MG

 

[Nebs]

At the risk of thread drift, if you are interested in 20 ga. load data for 7/8 oz. and Green Dot, look here:
https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/green-dot-most-common-uses.881183/page-2
Green Dot most common uses

 

[Perazzi_MX8]

Clean burning powder is like clean burning coal. Remington introduced Kleanbore ammo many decades ago, but you still have to clean the bore of your guns. Truth in advertising is another oxymoron that's believed by very few people.

 

[smokintom]

I clean my guns so the powder has never been an issue.
A clean gun is a happy gun.

 

[mg1polo]

Yes,
I never stopped loading Green Dot in
20 gauge AA HS hulls.
MG

I load 20ga Winchester HS hulls,
with 14.5 gr of Alliant Green Dot Powder.
Winchester 209 Primer.
Winchester WAA20 Wad, "clone"
7/8 oz hard lead shot.
I have shot this load for over 30 years in a tubed gun and never had a issue.
It was an Alliant Book Load for many many years and still listed in the Lyman 5th.
MG

 

[waverider]

"It was an Alliant Book Load..."

Your 20 ga tubes have not cracked, so as Nebs posted, those that cracked were most likely defective.

Jason

 

[mg1polo]

"It was an Alliant Book Load..."

Your 20 ga tubes have not cracked, so as Nebs posted, those that cracked were most likely defective.

Jason

One could draw that conclusion.
I do not know that. I do know that I have been and still do, reload Green Dot powder in my 20 gauge loads.
There are 100's of older loads that have been de listed over the years. I've never attempted to find out why.
Each of us makes our own choices,
MG

 

[Spanky]

I’ll I’ve been reloading for years and years has been Red Dot and Green Dot. Good stuff. I think it cleaner than stuff from the 70’s and 80’s but that cleaner burning ad has been around for years. Try it you’ll like it. Very consistent powder. At least in my experience. I have no plans of changing. Not to say I won’t experiment here and there.