[redfin1956]

i use what came with the gun. but i like the muellers cause when someone bangs one on the concrete, i can make a few bucks

 

[Pull & Mark]

What's the consensus on Mueller chokes?

They have had a number of there Aluminum Chokes blow apart over the years in a persons shotgun barrel. Ruining not only the choke, but the end of the shotguns barrel in many cases!!! Not all of there chokes have done this. The actual number, or percentage of there chokes doing this should be on the low side. But the fact remains that Muller knows of this problem, and does nothing about it. If you look at Briley's aluminum chokes. Briley will tell you, they mix antimony in with the aluminum, to make their Aluminum Chokes Stronger. I personally have never had one of Mullers chokes blow apart on me. The reason for this is that I will never place one of there chokes in any of my shotguns. I will stick with factory chokes, or Briley's. Nothing else will go in my shotguns barrels. If you want/need a lighter choke in your shotgun. Stick with Titanium chokes. Titanium may cost a bit more, but it is a much stronger metal to start with.

If you have Muller chokes in your shotgun. You may want to check your chokes regularly for splits up the sides!!! This is how they start, before they come apart. break em all jeff

 

[58perazzi]

I had steel mullers.
pros: they look cool, won’t split
Cons: tough to keep tight and no in between constriction between U2 and U3. So if you want a 15-20 constriction (like 90% of sporting shooters) you are out of luck.

 

[Merlyn]

Smoke and mirrors.....paper tells the real story....each load will pattern differently, as will each barrel....no shortcuts to pattern testing as Neil Winston would have told you!!......m

 

[blackandgold]

Mullers are no better than any other choke of the same constriction.

I sold mine.

 

[SanRemo32]

Just my opinion, but choke tubes may have (somewhat of) a place in Sporting Clays because of the different presentations.

As for Trap and Skeet, I haven't changed a tube in years.

I have come to the conclusion that a factory barrel with an improved modified or full choke will serve my every purpose.

 

[Wildgene]

Chokes are only part of the equation. I know guys that swear by them and guys that swear by Briley, Teague, Carlson, Extreme, etc.. You already know that. It is my understanding they don't get as dirty, but you have to be super careful when you clean them. Guys say they can just put in a U2(?) or whatever and not worry about it but when you look at it, it's similar to a L-Mod (or equivalent of ?).

I think their biggest advantage is that there are only a few size options so guys spend more time focusing on the target and less about what choke they are using.

wg

 

[Knowballs]

I had a bad experience with a Muller choke. I wish I still had the photo. I can only describe what happened, choke split & was hanging off the end of the barrel, about 1 third was still inside. It came out easy, no damage to the barrel. Will I use them again? no. For that matter I sold 3 other tubes that I had. I have quite a few Brileys, never had a problem. Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[timb99]

Neil Winston did a lot of pattern testing on a lot of choke tubes. Many different brands.

Dr. Andrew Jones did a lot of pattern testing on a lot of different choke tubes. Probably as many or more than Neil.

I have done a little pattern testing on a handful of choke tubes.

From the perspective of PATTERN performance, a choke tube is a choke tube is a choke tube.

Only two things really matter. Constriction, and shot hardness.

Tighter choke = tighter pattern
Harder shot = tighter pattern

Claims of "evenness" or "better long distance performance" or "spinning the wad" or whatever, are all marketing.

Neil DID say one brand stood out and I think it was the long extended chokes by Kick's or something like that. He said they did pattern slightly tighter than others.

And Neil's testing also indicated that "all else equal," between about 0.036" and 0.046" constriction, there's really no statistically significant difference.

 

[searun]

Muller chokes are the MOST unreliable choke that you can own.
I have seen them split or breakoff at the muzzle on three different makes of guns and Muller is for sure aware of his problem, so much so that now he has made chokes out of stainless as replacements for the failed aluminum chokes.
I am not sure why you would take a chance on one failing and ruining your barrel or even failing during competition.
Another consideration is that they have been tested for patterns and do not produce patterns that are any better than other know makes such as Briley, etc.
They are light, but if you wish to reduce weight at the muzzle then titainum chokes like Briley, Extreme and Puregold make and are what to use without fear of failure.

CT

 

[Paper hull]

I like muller because they are light in weight
But as for patterns I couldn't tell any difference

 

[KS-5 Spec.]

Chokes do the same thing an hour with a sports psychologist would do. Except the psychologist would be worth the price, and they would save you thousands in the future.

 

[dburke]

Briley has a great customer center for ordering. They have made several custom chokes in a K32 thinwall for me.

 

[ernest t]

The Mullers come in stainless steel if you don't want to chance the lighter ones failing. I like them because with the way they are sized I can do with 3 chokes what used to take 4-5 shooting sporting clays. This means less time changing chokes for me. Probably a moot point for skeet or trap. Other advantage is that the Muller chokes can be changed by hand, so no need for a choke wrench.

 

[BrowningPotato]

I have shot Muller chokes for years and love them. Absolutely no problem and I suspect the “splitting” incidents mentioned above are largely overblown, like “I heard K guns blow up.”

That said, I doubt they pattern any better or worse than Briley, or even factory, chokes.

 

[Gary Waalkes]

Greasewood, You said you have "mixed bag" of chokes, you did not share the constrictions, nor did you tell us what gun you are shooting, the age of the gun you are shooting, what sport you are engaged in, or if you ever shot for the POI or least important - patterns and yardage shot from, The first thing you need to know is the POI. Some guns do not shoot straight and some O/U guns are poorly regulated. Some chokes can change the POI - you need to check the POI with each of your chokes. You also need to use a bore mic and find out the exact constriction of each of your "mixed bag" of chokes - do not trust the labeling. Do yourself a favor and learn about your gun before spending $$. If your gun/choke combination shoots straight (POI), remember that you cannot buy a target with a new choke tube

 

[flashmax]

Mullers are SOOOO. Much better that ALL others. Hell, here is one of their advertisements PROVING how much better they are.

Now, where is that picture of the bridge I need to sell?

 

[pettifogger1]

 

[Kazer]

Tim said it all in his post. I personally have Briley thinwalls - I thought I would notice a weight savings way out on the end of the barrel but I don't think I can actually tell the difference. But in any event the chokes are well made and very durable. I have not had a single issue and they also stay tight, which is a plus. I used to change chokes for singles and caps, but now I just leave the full choke in for everything and crush targets.