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Didn't want to sound like it's over, it's just starting. I sure like shooting when I'm not pouring sweat!
If you don`t like to sweat when you shoot then you sure as hell won`t like Linn Creek in July or August . It can be one hot-humid-hell on earth .Then you need to factor in all the motels and restaurants are mobbed during tourist season.
 

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What KS-OKIE said is true, if the Missouri State Shoot or the Missouri Fall Handicap were held during boating season you would have a heck of a time finding hotel rooms and they would be about 30% higher in price. Boating season on the Lake of the Ozarks is basically Memorial day though a week or two after Labor Day.
 

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Even Lynn Creek has a very long existance compared to Sparta. How long did it take to take the land around Lynn Creek to develop to what is is now? What about neighboring Branson. Sparta cannot be compared to other places that have been around for many decades, until Sparta gets "built up." It is going to take time, money and more importantly interest to create a first class shooting facility with lodging, dining and entertainment that so many are eager for. The sad thing is, your young kids may some day be able to enjoy those things, after the rest of us are taking our dirt naps.

You are not going going to find an new, ideal enormous shooting facility in the middle of an ideal location with all the amenities at the beginning.
 

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The Lake of the Ozarks was built in 1931. The MTA came along about 40 years later.
I think better comparison would be Dayton OH to the old Grand. When the club was built in 1924, Vandalia was a "distance" from the hotels in Dayton, shooters staying there rode the train to the gun club, in later years shooters stayed in tents on the grounds that rented out cots (Leo's grandfather did that)
The WSRC in Sparta has only been in existence 10 years.
 

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Trapshooting alone will never generate enough base for motels. I am not a Sparta hater but it was a poor decision or maybe one made to quickly. There is just to much controversy and politics involved with the Sparta site. Hindsight is only good if you use it not to make the same mistakes twice, and as anyone can see it was a mistake. We are all due a mistake, but we need to learn from them. I am sure some people will run down my response but the facts are there anyone with an open mind can see that.
 

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Maybe you should introduce your wife to some of the other wives. In the last 10 years my wife and others have found plenty to do with out going to St. Louis. As far as restaurants go there are plenty, you just have to get off your butt and find them or ask someone, but's it easier to complain. Of course you might have to drive a little, but I guess you want everything within walking distance. You bitching is unfounded.

Why don't you drive to San Antonio and have your gun stolen.

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Maybe you should introduce your wife to some of the other wives. In the last 10 years my wife and others have found plenty to do with out going to St. Louis. As far as restaurants go there are plenty, you just have to get off your butt and find them or ask someone, but's it easier to complain. Of course you might have to drive a little, but I guess you want everything within walking distance. You bitching is unfounded.

Why don't you drive to San Antonio and have your gun stolen.

Don
You have a lot of anger issues.
 

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Those of us who attended the Vandalia Grand and did not camp (oh my, that was an interesting option!) always had difficulty finding a motel for a long list of reasons. Many years, we stayed at least a half hour drive away. Now that the Grand offers plentiful camping plus hotels, I have a choice. Motels are limited in the Sparta city limits, but in under an hour you can find many rooms. Driving from these motels to the gun club is easy compared to Dayton traffic.
I run out of days to do all the things I want to do during the Grand. Anyone who complains that they are "stuck" on the grounds are either not participating in all that goes on at the WSRC or they are not exploring the area.
If you need information on entertainment off the grounds, just ask!
 

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"It's doesn't take experience to count the number of hotels and restaurants in Sparta. It doesn't take experience to notice there are no outside activities other than the trap range. This type of elitism is exactly why trap is a declining sport. With high school and middle school shooting numbers through the roof it's a crime those shooters are not shooting ata. Keep having your Grand in the middle of a cornfield in Sparta with nothing for the family to do and you will never get those shooters. But, the old elitist trap shooters are probably happier that way." Quote of zachwater

Need I say more. Dumb!!

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Don, I don't know how you can think that there is nothing to do off the trap field, read the program, there were social and shooting activities on 6 of the 11 evenings during this year's Grand. That doesn't count the bingo or casino trips during 4 different days. The Sparta City swimming pool offers fun off the grounds. There are stocked lakes to fish in. I host a big cookout at my camper one evening each year, as do many other shooting families, you would be welcome to come and bring your family.
I grew up with a dad who was a shooter and I married another shooter, believe me I've known many small gun clubs where there was nothing to do except shoot, if you don't count visiting with friends, playing cards or other games, or even stretching out under a shade tree with a good book.
I guess "nothing to do" is just a matter of personal opinion.....
 

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Sorry I did not read as closely as I should have, my reply was only meant to be informational, not necessarily critical. I do my own thing at the Grand and hope everyone else will do the same and have as good a time as I always do.
 

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I actually like Sparta. Maybe it will have more lodging and food choices as time goes by. It is a wonderful trap facility.
 

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Zachwater,
I am glad to hear you like Sparta, it was difficult to tell.
I can't get to all of the good eating places in the region in 2 weeks. I can't imagine that many more restaurants are needed for the region. If Molly's is all you found, you missed out on several close by quality establishments. Ask and you will hear of great Family style, German, Italian, Steak, Oriental, BBQ, etc within 30-45 minutes of the facility. I don't like standing in line to eat at a restaurant for more than 10 minutes. In Osage Beach it can be a 30 minute wait and I have never had more than a couple minute wait around the Sparta area. I think a thread that could aid you in enjoying the region would be to ask where there are eating opportunities and recreation opportunities.
Good Luck,
JU
 
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