Hello Tim. The red PC baffle has a spring loaded base which effectively eliminates the need for the brass or black rubber washers. The spring loaded base of the baffle seals the charge bar at the powder bushing area. Regards, Ed

 

No. You want it to ride directly on the Charge Bar , so No Brass Washer and No Rubber Washer.
Regards , Pete

Looks like you beat me to it Old Goat!

 

Thanks

 

well...........we're dying to hear how it worked out??

 

Drum roll please.........

 

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if it is listed in the For Sale forums tomorrow, we'll know the answer!!

 

Better, but not perfect.

And new problems that weren't there before.

So it arrived on my doorstep today. I unpacked it, set it up, and ran it threw a few rotations with no hulls, primers, or powder.

Immediately, before putting any hulls in, I notice a new problem I never had before. The shell plate is not rotating all the way to the new index position. That is, there is a little spring-loaded "catch" on the right side at the pre-crimp station that is supposed to pop into place and prevent reverse rotation of the plate (I assume.) Well, the shell plate isn't rotating all the way around and into position, probably 6-7 times out of 10.

On the up-side, every time I put a new hull into the deprime/resize station, it will move enough that the shell plate pops into its proper position.

I suspect this is an easy fix....

As to the original problem, the primer jamming as the shell plate rotates and drops the new primer into the priming station hole;

Six jams out of 500 cartridges made. Like I said, better but not perfect. Kinda like me trying to break 100 straight...close but never perfect.

Now another new problem that I had not experienced before. I had 4 instances (out of 500) of the primer dropping down the tube and into position, but then popping back out and turning upside down or out of the hole in the shell plate on the upstroke.

All in all, not nearly as frustrating jams were, but still...

 

Immediately, before putting any hulls in, I notice a new problem I never had before. The shell plate is not rotating all the way to the new index position. That is, there is a little spring-loaded "catch" on the right side at the pre-crimp station that is supposed to pop into place and prevent reverse rotation of the plate (I assume.) Well, the shell plate isn't rotating all the way around and into position, probably 6-7 times out of 1o
...

Shell plate adjustment page 30.

I often think that most people who have problems with 9000s just never read the owners manual for proper adjustment. The fact you didn't know this makes me think you are in the same crowd. You loaded how many shells without refering to the owners manual? It's one of the easiest adjustments to make on a 9000!

 

Your last new problem, make sure that the collet is sufficiently lubricated so that it releases smoothly. If it pops loose it can jar the primer out of place. I actually use anti-seize.

 

Yes, lubing the collet will help this. But I wouldn't recommend an anti-seize. Use an actual grease. The experts on MEC machines have come to the conclusion that Super Web Grease is the best product. Just bought a tube, and it is awesome! Comes from the bicycle industry.

 

There are a bunch of stickied threads on MEC adjustments over in the reloading forum of shotgunworld. If you haven't already checked them out, it might be an idea. Good Luck!

 

Shell plate adjustment page 30.

 

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Not very reassuring when the manufacturer can't even fix it so it works correctly.

 

Tim

Well its back with a quick turn around,

I often wonder how many times a loader gets dropped during a shipment, a store gets them they probably on a pallet, consumer deals with that single box shipment.

Well make those adjustments and let us know, How well it performs


DGH

 

Hello. I disassembled and removed the auto indexing mechanism off my MEC 9000G last night effectively converting it to a Grabber configuration. I am too old to put up with more indexing problems and spilled powder and shot. Removed 3 bolts and one screw. Luckily, I bought this 9000 in great shape - except for occasional adjustment and cleanup problems -for $75 from a dedicated PW loader. Now I have 2 Grabbers...One for 1 oz. and one for 1 1/8 oz. loads. Regards, Ed

 

Tighten the nut under the gas cylinder slowly, and watch the shell plate advance past the catch. Very simple.

 

Good grief. What a bunch of Keystone Cops. You send it in to fix one problem and it comes back with a whole host of new problems. To all those who say you should read the manual to figure out all the little adjustments, I say it should not be necessary on a brand new machine. It should some from the factory properly adjusted.

In the immortal words of Aldo Gucci:
“The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.”

 

To all those who say you should read the manual to figure out all the little adjustments, I say it should not be necessary on a brand new machine. It should some from the factory properly adjusted.

And which shell should it be set to reload. Look at the difference in height of the Rem and Win 20 ga hull. You realize 4 of the 6 stations on a 9000 are affected and can be adjusted to hull height? So with a difference in height from different manufacturers, which one should the factory set the height to? I guarantee you, if you are getting perfect crimps on the Rem, you won't be getting perfect crimps on the AA, and vice versa....without making USER Adjustments.

 

the problems the OP is having with his MEC, after having sent it back to the manufacturer for adjustment, are not related to hull length.

 

the difference in height between STS and AA 12 ga, and AA and GM 28 ga.

 

I own 4 Mec 9000Gn presses. They can be a little trying at times. But generally once you have a load you like, after the press is set up, you shouldn't have to do much other than lube the collet from time to time. As others have posted, contact Curlynohair or DLMarcum on SGW as they are the Mec gurus. But a lot of the problems can and are cured by reading your manual. I wouldn't suggest owning a reloader if you don't have some mechanical ablity, as they all require tinkering at some point.

 

I wouldn't suggest owning a reloader if you don't have some mechanical ablity, as they all require tinkering at some point.

Not really true at all. Once I got my load set on my 366, I haven't touched a thing. I just sit down, weigh a few drops and start pullin the handle.

 

I have owned the 9000h and I finally sold it just before the snake bite. I'm certainly a fan of Mec's customer service as it is about as good as it gets. When mine started going south they promptly repaired it and returned it post haste! Unfortunately I was never able to get it to work as it had in the past. Since I'm not real mechanical the two Spolar's and the PW will have to take up the slack and I do not tinker on any of them due my limited abilities and not mention they don't require tinkering. Thank the Lord!!

 

Dose anyone know if the new 9000gn has the same problems and what's the difference between 9000g and the gun model?

 

I wonder how long it will be before I have to "TINKER" with mine for the first time ?

 

It sounds like I must have got lucky. Brought mine home adjusted pre crimp and it was good to go. Loaded over 10,000 so far and still running fine.


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I have used the 9000 series since they came out. Never had issues you are having with any of them. Many I bought used that were so out of adjustment that they would not load a single round. They did not come from the factory like that.

They will need periodic adjustments and service. Even a new Cadillac has hours of pre delivery inspection and adjustments before being delivered to a customer.

I suggest you look at MEC service guides on YouTube and become more familiar with your machine.

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They are one of the best of all presses. I have sold and serviced most all of them, and prefer the 9000 over all of them. I do use a Sizemaster for 28 and 410. I prefer 800X in the 28, which is basically unusable in a progressive. My 410 load nearly fills the case, and I tamp down the hull before it goes in the crimp starter station.