[AAtrap]

Malfunction--no lost target.

 

[handlepuller]

There has to be a target to have a loss.

 

[Donnie W]

There has to be a target thrown to be able to call a loss.

 

[alf174]

That club and the score keepers need to review the ATA rules.

 

[SteveS1965]

a club stating ATA rules apply, but don't know the rules,

 

[WadHopper]

I've witnessed this several times but never was it considered a loss. I'm surprised your squad-mates failed to speak up on your behalf?
I would have.

 

[Rick Barker]

I've witnessed this several times but never was it considered a loss. I'm surprised your squad-mates failed to speak up on your behalf?
I would have.

I would not be surprised considering how few trap shooters belong to ATA and this is a non ATA shoot. I am not trying to admonish OP, but if it were me and I was told the club shoots under guidance of ATA rules, I would have whipped out my copy of the ATA rule book I always have with me and said “show me that rule.” Even if people do not carry a copy in print, you can pull it up on the ATA website and don’t have to be a member to do that.

 

[SanRemo32]

The shoot management probably could have called it either way until they stated "we shoot ATA rules here".

 

[320090T]

No target, no loss but what if the sound of the shot had thrown a target?

 

[Rick Barker]

See what I mean?

Answer on page 28 of rule book.

I am leaving website now.

 

[Maximoto1]

no target, no loss. also on a miss fire, if the wad doesn't leave the barrel, its called failure to fail, allowed 2 per round, any more are lost targets

 

[Ken C.]

On P. 30, No Target
6. When the trap is sprung without any call of pull, or when it is sprung at any material interval of time before or after the call of the contestant, provided the contestant does not fire. If the contestant fires, the result must be scored.

I think there might have been a misinterpretation of this rule. Since the gun went “bang”, an assumption was made that a) a call was uttered b) “the result must be scored.”

No target is the proper call.

 

[Kevin Fleming]

I hope mgmt's ignorance didn't cost you any trophy money.

K

 

[senorric]

"I put the gun up and set the trigger and the gun went off."

I think there is a bigger issue here than whether you shot a 23 or 24!

 

[JBrooks]

"I put the gun up and set the trigger and the gun went off."

I think there is a bigger issue here than whether you shot a 23 or 24!

I think there is a reading issue here as he explained what and how he fixed the trigger issue.

 

[Literalist]

Prayers sent.

 

[Al Capone]

I've witnessed this several times but never was it considered a loss. I'm surprised your squad-mates failed to speak up on your behalf?
I would have.

After I was done shooting and back in the clubhouse. The scorer told me the squad-mates said let him shoot over. I did not hear it but, he said the office over ruled it.

 

[Rick Barker]

On P. 30, No Target
6. When the trap is sprung without any call of pull, or when it is sprung at any material interval of time before or after the call of the contestant, provided the contestant does not fire. If the contestant fires, the result must be scored.

I think there might have been a misinterpretation of this rule. Since the gun went “bang”, an assumption was made that a) a call was uttered b) “the result must be scored.”

No target is the proper call.

Maybe the score keeper cannot hear all the calls made and thought he called for it?

 

[WadHopper]

Maybe the score keeper cannot hear all the calls made and thought he called for it?

Even still, no target. Think doubles. I've seen a lot of people shoot at no target and have to shoot the pair over.
Edit...
Maybe not. After rereading post 13 I'm thinking maybe not. They shoot the pair over but it's loss dead on the score sheet... dunno.