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O.K.... let's see. loss of integrity means that you were caught in a lie, or that you just can't be believed for some reason. I know some pretty big b.s.ers that would never resort to any form of cheating. Apparently Twinbirds is p.o.ed about something. My guess is some sort of falsified score, maybe? Bill
 

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Or maybe his perception of an event is flawed. Maybe he doesn't think a rule is fair.
 

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Just reminding everyone that anyone who goes along with any type of "look the other way" is cheating! there was some loss of integrity in scoring and other squad members looked away. doesn't matter to me, because it doesn't involve me, is pure B.S. further more someone's parents stood by and condoned the practice.
 

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What is done is done. It involved a minor in a state trapshoot. Shame on everyone who let it happen! Watch everyone's targets, has a squad member it is your duty to ensure the sanctity of the score, unless you lean the other way then corruption is your objective. Think of what you are teaching that child!
 

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"What is done is done"



Why did you bring it up then???
 

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Twinbirds, it seems now days that anything is acceptable just make the child happy

A long time ago our son was on a baseball team that was pathetic, lost every game in the season, and at the end the coach wanted everybody to chip in to buy trophies, all the other parents thought I was a horse's a$$ because I wouldn't do it

They didn't want to hurt the child's self esteem, WHAT they lost every game
 

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With the knowledge of the incident and not doing anything about it is the same behaviour as you are bitching about!!

Either do something about it and then bitch or just keep it under your hat altogether.
 

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because they post here,they know who they are, they know what they did, and they need to know that not everyone bought into the dog and pony show. it wasn't sandbagging, it was worse, it was claiming targets that weren't broke, and more than one. Just how far do they think it is going to go?
 

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What the ATA needs is really simple...just add some more trophies...then everybody will be happy and all forms and manner of cheating shall disappear....

Right?

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"Just reminding everyone that anyone who goes along with any type of "look the other way" is cheating!..... doesn't matter to me, because it doesn't involve me, ....."


I'm confused. Did you stay quiet, say "it doesn't involve me" and "look the other way" or did you speak up?
 

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anyone ever have an ATA score rescinded? be hard to do after the fact. Not everything is throphies and money.
 

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spoke but no one was listening. had it happen before. this is why there should be randomly assigned squadding at large shoots.
 

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Does this mean that at least two members of the same family were on the same squad, & a senior member says-"I saw a chip"

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