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By Chris Francescani

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The new AR 15 semi-automatic rifles, designed to meet tough gun restrictions passed by some states in the wake of mass shootings, are now in gun shops in New York state but initial demand has been low, shop owners said.

Complying with New York and Connecticut gun laws aimed at creating weapons that are less lethal, the modified models have a higher price tag.

"The market for AR 15s has moved over the border to Pennsylvania," John Kielbasa, who recently received his first manufacturer shipment of the new rifles, designed specifically to comply with New York's new laws.

"I'm a one-man shop, and for many manufacturers who used to deal with me, it's not worth it anymore," he said, adding he is considering not selling the weapon at his Hankins, New York, shop, about a mile from the Pennsylvania border.

The two main modifications to the AR 15 rifles are the lack of a muzzle brake, which controls the rapid fire of bullets, and a flash hide, or suppressor, which limits the flash of light coming out of the barrel, Kielbasa said.

The suppressor allowed night-time shooters to obscure their location by masking the "flash" of light. The new AR 15 model costs about $100 more than the old one.

Some states have tightened gun restrictions in the wake of mass shootings, especially since a 20-year-old gunman walked into a Newtown, Connecticut school and killed 20 children and six adults in 2012.

In states like New York and Connecticut officials said they are not sorry the new guns are not flying off the shelf.

"One of the goals of the legislation is to have fewer of these kinds of weapons in circulation over time, and we're pretty sure that will happen," said Mike Lawlor, Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy's Under Secretary for Criminal Justice Policy and Planning.

Different requirements set by states such as New York, Connecticut, California and Ohio, make production costly and time-consuming, some manufacturers said. Others said the standards demanded of them do not make the guns safer but only changes how they look.

"Cosmetic changes to firearms are not really the issue," said Mike Bazinet, spokesman for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, a trade group for firearms manufacturers.

(Reporting By Chris Francescani; editing by Gunna Dickson)

Wow, really? A muzzle brake controls the rate of rapid fire?

And the lack of a muzzle brake or flash hider makes them less lethal?

I can see how the lack of a bayonet lug would make it less lethal in a drive by bayoneting. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not exactly been an issue.

Cosmetic changes simply do not have any bearing on terminal performance of the bullet.
 

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Yeah I caught that too

Is the muzzle brake hydraulic or air LOL
 

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So if I unscrew and remove my muzzle brake, will it be full auto?
 

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Obviously it will slow it down to the point where you'd be better off with a single shot rifle!
 

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Come on now. You all know that a muzzle brake slows down the bullet itself thus making it take more time to clear the barrel and therefore not allowing another bullet to leave or else you have the New Jersey Traffic at the Bridge effect when all the bullets try to leave the barrel at the same time but then none of the bullets can leave the barrel because they are all jammed up at the muzzle brake. It may take several hours for all the bullets to get through the barrel! Heck it might take so long that even Christie could shoot this new thing in New York, then pop back to his New Jersey place, eat a pizza and still get back to New York before the bullets leave the barrel.

And the flash suppressor, come on you know that is to keep the flash from giving you a "red eye" look when you try to take a "selfie" with this new AR-15 style flash.

That is what the New York law is supposed to do to make this AR-15 style "less lethal".
 

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If that was true, then these politicians and reporters need a muzzle brake on their mouths. Bob Costas could use one. LOL.
 

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Yeah I guess I got that backwards. I better leave it to those experts in your link. They got it all figured out.
 

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OMG.......John Kielbasa? Really? ROFLMAO!!

That's as bad as Anthony Wiener.

A dealer named after Polish sausage. Sounds like he didn't want to give his real name.

Some funny stuff there.
 

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mmmmm, keilbasa sausage, fried sauerkraut and red potatoes.

What were we talking about?
 

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grntitan:

You asked, "... if I unscrew and remove my muzzle brake, will it be full auto?"
I can't answer that question but I'm pretty sure if someone unscrewed Chris Francescani's belly button, his keister would fall off.

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