Ok, here's my two cents, about a year ago the rib on my Ljutic came loose, I sent it to Ljutic, and got a call from Jimmy saying the best bet for me was to do their complete rebuild special, I agreed and ask him to tune up my release trigger, he was happy to do that, by the way the trigger job was great, after my gun was returned to me I went to the range for a little try out, put a shell in, set the trigger and called PULL, CLICK, HUUMMMMMM that was one of my reloads did I by chance get the primer set too deep? not a mark on the primer, stuck another shell in,set the trigger PULL! CLICK, shit, on inspection I found I did not have a firing pin, spring or retainer screw, its 4pm in Florida and I know I have time to make the call, needless to say Jimmy was embarassed, could not believe that the gun had got out of the plant that way, he overnighted me two of everything, pins springs and retainer screws, SUNDAY is ATA day at our range so off to shoot I go.
During the singles event I am having trouble getting my trigger to set, I close a break open very easy, and with the LJUTIC I would hold the accuator in until I had the gun closed, HUMMMM mabe since its all rebuilt I need to snap it shut, BOOOOOOMMMMM!!!! damn thing went off when I closed it, thats it, out comes the other gun. I called Jimmy, he had me pull the coking rod and read him the numbers on the flat, no numbers, gotta be numbers, no numbers Jimmy, oh hell you have one of our early cocking rods, I will send you one out with apologies that I accepted. Next day I get a new cocking rod, a spare screw for every one in a Ljutic and a bunch of choke O rings.
Thats my story, I sold the gun shortly after, did they make it right, Oh Yeah they did. Was I a satisfied customer? Not really, for the cost and who I was dealing with I expected more.
A month ago, I was 100 percent sure that I was going to get a Ljutic (used of course, let someone else take that initial depreciation). That percentage is slowly going down, but I will wait until I get the whole story; and I do mean the whole story. Every day I am amazed at how greed, and nothing but greed drives this country. I do not begrudge someone making a profit, but when that profit is the only force driving your company, it's time for me to move on to the next choice. I firmly believe that if this country continues on the path it's on, we will be a third world nation. Not in my lifetime, but I'm 64, so I don't believe I have a whole lot of time left and really am glad that I won't see this movement reach it's ultimate goal. Take a look at the slums of a country like India and I think you're looking at the future of this once great country.
Hauxfan, are you being coy in the fact that YOU are giving the impression YOU know all the facts about this situation which leave all of TS.Com and Ljutic owners guessing?
I have enjoyed knowing and working with both SGS and the Ljutic family and it is my greatest wish to see this All American Company to thrive and grow with continued service and some new great trap guns as they have in the past. I wish for the new owners to value the history and develop new technology to help this fine company grow. I would hate to see Ljutic go down the drain as some kind of tax write off and certainly hope they have the finances to keep it going even though it won't be a huge return investment for them! Biff
This thread was NOT, by any means directed towards the deal between SGS and Ljutic! As I originally stated "is it just me or has anyone else noticed that since the new owners took over quality and service has went out the window"
I do not pretend or even want to know what happened beteween them! I do own 4 ljutic shotguns and shoot one on a regular basis!
I am referring to a number of Ljutic customers that are ranting and raving over piss poor customer service and poor quality control of products that are being sent out of their plant! Hopefully some of these guys will chime in and tell some of their problems in dealing with Ljutic.
I have no problem with any type of notification over the internet/email/PM/IM/whatever. But...this is a PUBLIC forum, the way it was posted was no different than standing up in a crowded restaurant and yelling it out. It was meant to humiliate or embarrass the recipient. We all know that was the whole point.....that's all I have to say about that.