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I have several trap guns with light triggers, most came that way from the manufacturer. I like a light trigger. I do not touch the trigger until I am ready to break the target.
A light trigger leads to flinching in a different way. Over time you will end up trying to pull the trigger “just enough” to fire the shot. But you won’t quite get it pulled. Then comes the internal head games. And worse flinching.45 years ago, an All American of the time told me, "The key to a long career in shooting is this: Heavy triggers and light loads."
45 years later, it seems to be working.
Good advice. I’ll pay attention to that. I hate a release trigger.A light trigger leads to flinching in a different way. Over time you will end up trying to pull the trigger “just enough” to fire the shot. But you won’t quite get it pulled. Then comes the internal head games. And worse flinching.
Triggers must be considered like a red headed step child. Slap hell out of them or you’ll end up needing a release.
100%. Without a number, this discussion is meaningless. My main trap gun trigger is 3.5lbs, my main backup is 4lbs. They seem right. I don't know if that is light or heavy in this discussionI know people that think a six pound trigger pull is light and others that think a three pound pull is heavy. Without an actual pull weight from a gauge there is no way to opine on your question.
For me 3.5 is minimum. Any lighter and I find myself shooting behind the hardI find trigger pull utterly a non issue shooting clay sports. Maybe I have never had a good trigger who knows but clays aren’t like shooting precision bench rest.
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I think you two are missing my point. I have no idea what my trigger weight is, nor do I have any desire to measure it. To ME, my perception is that it is lighter than normal. As I stated, a gunsmith made it lighter than factory, By how much I have no clue. All my dozen or so Brownings that I have owned over the years have a PERCEIVED by ME, much heavier trigger pull. I’m comfortable with all of them. The post states that this trigger is lighter than I am used to. A number doesn’t matter to ME. Whether it is 1 pound or 5 pounds. I go by my feel when shooting a gun. I’ve owned over a hundred Guns of all configurations with many different felt triggers. Some excellent, some God awful. I never weighed any trigger pull nor asked what the pull weight was. If I didn’t like it, I didnt buy it. If one wants to go by stated trigger weight, great. If one wants to weigh their triggers great. I’m only saying that to me this trigger is touchy to the point that I have to pay attention when I’m shooting. My other guns do not require this type of attention. In fact, I’m considering have a smith increase the felt pull weight to make it feel better. I just haven’t made up my mind yet. Not disagreeing, but my view is felt weight is what matters and not a number.100%. Without a number, this discussion is meaningless. My main trap gun trigger is 3.5lbs, my main backup is 4lbs. They seem right. I don't know if that is light or heavy in this discussion
That could be a thing. I mean this sport is very mental and if that is in your head I would have the weight increased to feel like your other guns.I think you two are missing my point. I have no idea what my trigger weight is, nor do I have any desire to measure it. To ME, my perception is that it is lighter than normal. As I stated, a gunsmith made it lighter than factory, By how much I have no clue. All my dozen or so Brownings that I have owned over the years have a PERCEIVED by ME, much heavier trigger pull. I’m comfortable with all of them. The post states that this trigger is lighter than I am used to. A number doesn’t matter to ME. Whether it is 1 pound or 5 pounds. I go by my feel when shooting a gun. I’ve owned over a hundred Guns of all configurations with many different felt triggers. Some excellent, some God awful. I never weighed any trigger pull nor asked what the pull weight was. If I didn’t like it, I didnt buy it. If one wants to go by stated trigger weight, great. If one wants to weigh their triggers great. I’m only saying that to me this trigger is touchy to the point that I have to pay attention when I’m shooting. My other guns do not require this type of attention. In fact, I’m considering have a smith increase the felt pull weight to make it feel better. I just haven’t made up my mind yet. Not disagreeing, but my view is felt weight is what matters and not a number.
I don't know, made sense to me. Lots of people don't know the pound pressure number on their two guns, but they can tell the difference in pull weight if they aren't the same. One will be heavier than the other, if they're not equal.100%. Without a number, this discussion is meaningless. My main trap gun trigger is 3.5lbs, my main backup is 4lbs. They seem right. I don't know if that is light or heavy in this discussion
Now you‘re talking. That’s my point. I suppose I could have him weigh it while he’s at it.That could be a thing. I mean this sport is very mental and if that is in your head I would have the weight increased to feel like your other guns.
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If your flenching with the old gun and torching it off early with the new gun then neither will work for you.My Browning Pigeon grade that I’m learning to shoot has a very light trigger pull. The previous owner decided it needed trigger work and the result is pretty light. At first I didn’t care for it as I had one round let go before I was ready. Not a danger, as I was moving to the target and applied a little pressure I didn’t feel with a glove on. Missed of course. So, Now I barely touch it until I’m ready to seriously pull it.
Now prior to owning this gun, I was beginning to develop a flinch or yip I think it’s called, usually a couple per round. I would jerk the trigger hard and usually miss. Now with this gun, I have not had a flinch. I’m wondering with this light trigger, before the flinch can get started, the gun goes off. I suppose time will tell, but it’s interesting that the flinches seemed to have stopped.
Please share your ATA averages so we can weigh that advice.I find trigger pull utterly a non issue shooting clay sports. Maybe I have never had a good trigger who knows but clays aren’t like shooting precision bench rest.
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Your gunsmith is going to ask you what poundage you want your trigger set to. To tell him/her "a little heavier" means nothing. Most people who have shot enough can probably tell you within a pound of what a rifle trigger pull is. I would say maybe within 1 1/2 lbs for a shotgun. It's not rocket science and you shouldn't disregard the measuring concept.I think you two are missing my point. I have no idea what my trigger weight is, nor do I have any desire to measure it. To ME, my perception is that it is lighter than normal. As I stated, a gunsmith made it lighter than factory, By how much I have no clue. All my dozen or so Brownings that I have owned over the years have a PERCEIVED by ME, much heavier trigger pull. I’m comfortable with all of them. The post states that this trigger is lighter than I am used to. A number doesn’t matter to ME. Whether it is 1 pound or 5 pounds. I go by my feel when shooting a gun. I’ve owned over a hundred Guns of all configurations with many different felt triggers. Some excellent, some God awful. I never weighed any trigger pull nor asked what the pull weight was. If I didn’t like it, I didnt buy it. If one wants to go by stated trigger weight, great. If one wants to weigh their triggers great. I’m only saying that to me this trigger is touchy to the point that I have to pay attention when I’m shooting. My other guns do not require this type of attention. In fact, I’m considering have a smith increase the felt pull weight to make it feel better. I just haven’t made up my mind yet. Not disagreeing, but my view is felt weight is what matters and not a number.