No problem at all with Ben Avery as a current shooting facility. However, they run the trapshooting like it's a tourist attraction without much regard as to how to be a self sustaining business in the trapshooting world. It could be a great place for trapshooters and should probably take a good look at Sparta, Il. Last time I heard there were over 30 league teams and have settled nicely into the ATA schedule. Ben Avery officials are missing the boat but they have been told that by many already.
Ben Avery doesn't seem to understand that trapshooters usually pay the bills for most multiuse shooting clubs.
With that said I still believe that another, more shooter oriented club, is in order for the greater Phoenix region. It is true that the economy is soft but often that is the best time to buy property. Regardless of the naysayers, anything can be done with money and enthusiasm.
Others here have said that it can't be done, I say Bullshit! Who's ready to try?