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I prefer the Kel-Tec although there probably isn't a nickels worth of difference between the two. If reliable either makes a great always gun. I know that I have had complete reliability from a K32 and 2 P3AT's over about a thousand rounds of practice so why switch.

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Ruger---no matter how bad you bust it or abuse it, they'll fix it. Don't know about Kel Tec. Not five cents worth of difference between them as far as how they're made but I'll pick ruger.

I'll buy a trashed Ruger any day if the price is right. Send it in, you get virtually a new gun back at no cost other than shipping.

My LCP hits dead on at ten yards with MagTec defense rounds and is "forgotten" in the pocket holster.
 

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My opinion - the Ruger is actually to small esp. in the grip. I have a bersa thunder concealed carry 380 and I love it and shot it a lot. And a better price than the ruger.
 

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As one who has sold and serviced all of these guns, STAY AWAY from the PPK-S. They are overpriced jammers.

The Kel-Tec has the clip made for them, the Ruger is a better made Kel-Tec.

Right now, the Ruger is outselling the K-T about 4-to-1.

The Bersa works well, but is monumentally bigger than the LCP or the K-T.

My BUG is the Kel-Tec, mainly because of the clip.
 

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I have big hands and the Ruger has a much larger trigger loop. I Can't get my Finger in the Kel Tex trigger guard without depressing the trigger a bit.
 

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At least the Kel-Tec didn't need a recall because it wasn't copied right.
 

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My choice is the Kel Tec, great shooter, I buffed the feed ramp and have had no feed problems. Easy to carry. Jake
 

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I'm with Shannon391. If you ever needed a gun, would you want to be facing someone with one of those. I got rid of my KelTec32. I have a Glock 23, that's as small a gun as I'll ever carry.
 

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Savage99Stan, I've a guy who works for me who has a Ruger Blackhack .45 revolver. It was rather beat up when he bought it...the ratchet and lockup is worn some. Would Ruger repair this and what cost?
 

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I agree with the fact that the mouse guns are not ideal. However, for a BUG, or in hot weather when one wears cut offs and a tank top, they beat a rock.

After many hours of training, daily handling, and semi-annual refreshers, I almost always carry an edged weapon. The Kel-Tec beats the pants off any knife.

It is easier to defend in court against shooting an attacker than if you must mortally wound one with an edged weapon. Forensic pictures are graphic, when shown to a jury (if the event goes to trial).

The clip on the Kel-Tec allows the gun to be hidden inside the waist band without a holster, while keeping the gun secure. It also resembles a knife in the waistband.

Ruger will indeed repair your Blackhawk.
 

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The little gun you have with you beats the big gun you left at home because you have no practical way to carry it due to clothing constraints.

If I could figure out a way to carry it year 'round, I'd just carry my 6-1/2" Model 29 .44 Mag and not look back. That's kind of hard to do in summer beach clothing.
 

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RickN....I bought a Super Blackhawk at a gun show for a song..it was badly abused..ejector rod housing off, stud pulled out, back sight smashed from being dropped, and on and on.

Sent it to Ruger. Expected to pay a couple C-notes for parts/labor. Got it back in about five weeks, new barrel, sight, ejector rod/housing, grip frame screws, some internal parts PLUS a polish and reblue.

NO Cost. Other than shipping.

Don't know if they'll still do it on your friend's but would bet on it.

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Thanks, I think I'll contact Ruger and see what they say. The gun looks to me like someone spent too much time spinning the cylinder and trying to fan fire it...either loaded or not.
 

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I own a half dozen or more Kel-Tecs. The P3AT is great. I have no reason to buy the Ruger, since my Kel-Tec works quite well. I have various other Kel-Tecs and they have all worke well after breaking them in and sorting them out. They look very close, so I'd probably say go with the least cost. My PPK/S is dying from loneliness. It took a LOT to make it reliable and it is twice as heavy and bulkier than either the Kel-Tec or the Ruger. My one suggection would be to take a serious look at the PF-9. It's a compact 9mm and has a little more of an effective cartridge. The recoil is about the same. It's flat and hides well, plus it's a real 9mm.
 
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