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It's too late to stop this legislation, but here is a read of what the Health care legislation is all about, and it's not good. Hopefully we can get it abolished after the new generation takes office.












THE TRUE REASON FOR OBAMA'S PANIC ABOUT PASSING HEALTH
CARE LEGISLATION. PLEASE TAKE TIME TO READ.

According to Snopes, the following is correctly
attributed to Michael Connelly, Retired Attorney.


http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/connelly.asp


A question many of us are asking. Is this healthcare thing constitutional?
A retired Constitutional lawyer has read the entire proposed healthcare bill. Read his conclusions. This is stunning!
The Truth About the Health Care Bill
- Michael Connelly, Ret. Constitutional Attorney

Well, I have done it! I have read the entire text of proposed
House Bill 3200: The Affordable Health Care Choices Act
of 2009. I studied it with particular emphasis from my area of
expertise, constitutional law. I was frankly concerned that parts of
the proposed law that were being discussed might be unconstitutional.
What I found was far worse than what I had heard or expected.

To begin with, much of what has been said about
the law and its implications is in fact true, despite what the Democrats
and the media are saying. The law does provide for rationing of health
care, particularly where senior citizens and other classes of citizens
are involved, free health care for illegal immigrants, free abortion
services, and probably forced participation in abortions by members of
the medical profession.

The Bill will also eventually force private
insurance companies out of business, and put everyone into a government
run system. All decisions about personal health care will ultimately be
made by federal bureaucrats, and most of them will not be health care
professionals. Hospital admissions, payments to physicians, and
allocations of necessary medical devices will be strictly controlled by
the government.

However, as scary as all of that is, it just
scratches the surface. In fact, I have concluded that this legislation
really has no intention of providing affordable health care choices.
Instead it is a convenient cover for the most massive transfer of power
to the Executive Branch of government that has ever occurred, or even
been contemplated If this law or a similar one is adopted, major
portions of the Constitution of the United States will effectively have
been destroyed.

The first thing to go will be the masterfully
crafted balance of power between the Executive, Legislative, and
Judicial branches of the U.S. Government. The Congress will be
transferring to the Obama Administration authority in a number of
different areas over the lives of the American people, and the
businesses they own.

The irony is that the Congress doesn't have any
authority to legislate in most of those areas to begin with! I defy
anyone to read the text of the U.S. Constitution and find any authority
granted to the members of Congress to regulate health care.

This legislation also provides for access, by
the appointees of the Obama administration, of all of your personal
healthcare direct violation of the specific provisions of the 4th
Amendment to the Constitution information, your personal financial
information, and the information of your employer, physician, and
hospital. All of this is a protecting against unreasonable searches and
seizures.. You can also forget about the right to privacy. That will
have been legislated into oblivion regardless of what the 3rd and 4th
Amendments may provide.

If you decide not to have healthcare insurance,
or if you have private insurance that is not deemed acceptable to the
Health Choices Administrator appointed by Obama, there will be a tax
imposed on you. It is called a tax instead of a fine because of the
intent to avoid application of the due process clause of the 5th
Amendment. However, that doesn't work because since there is nothing in
the law that allows you to contest or appeal the imposition of the tax,
it is definitely depriving someone of property without the due process
of law.

So, there are three of those pesky amendments
that the far left hate so much, out the original ten in the Bill of
Rights, that are effectively nullified by this law It doesn't stop
there though.

The 9th Amendment that provides: The enumeration
in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny
or disparage others retained by the people;

The 10th Amendment states: The powers not
delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it
to the States, are preserved to the States respectively, or to the
people. Under the provisions of this piece of Congressional handiwork
neither the people nor the states are going to have any rights or powers
at all in many areas that once were theirs to control.

I could write many more pages about this
legislation, but I think you get the idea. This is not about health
care; it is about seizing power and limiting rights. Article 6 of the
Constitution requires the members of both houses of Congress to "be
bound by oath or affirmation to support the Constitution." If I was a
member of Congress I would not be able to vote for this legislation or
anything like it, without feeling I was violating that sacred oath or
affirmation. If I voted for it anyway, I would hope the American people
would hold me accountable.

For those who might doubt the nature of this threat, I suggest
they consult the source, the US Constitution, and Bill
of Rights. There you can see exactly what we are about to
have taken from us.

Michael Connelly
Retired attorney,
Constitutional Law Instructor
Carrollton , Texas

WE MUST HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE BEFORE IT IS
TOO LATE.
 

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And the Republicans are backing off repealing this turd now.

If they can't abide by the wishes of the voters either, then it's time to fire them too when the next election comes up.
 

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I'm not saying your post isn't true or false, BUT I would never use Snopes as a reliable and truthful source. It seems it's run by a couple of Progressive Dems who put on Snopes what they wish to that confirms their point of view.

Check out:

http://jeremysarber.com/2009/07/29/the-truth-behind-snopes-com/

http://www.mypeoplesvoice.com/what-is-the-truth-about-snopes/

http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/snopes_exposed.htm

Gene Batchelar
Wheaton, IL
 
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