[bodybuilder]

Is there a reason poor people can

I see all these threads on here about people buying lower dollar guns and trying them for trap. Most of the time it seems like people down them and say bad things about there gun and tell them they need to get a Browning xt or something. I know you get what you pay for and so do most people but everyone can't afford a $2000 or even $1000 dollar gun. I encourage people if all they can afford is a Remington 870 express shoot it and have fun and it will probably last a long time. I started shooting trap 30 years ago with a single shot H&R and since have been able to accumulate several nice trap guns but I want to encourage everyone to shoot regarless of what they can afford. Thanks

 

[GoldEx]

Yes. There is a reason poor people don't shoot trap. It is ecause trap is expensive to shoot and poor people don't have disposable income to waste on recreation. They squander their money on food and things like that.

Jeff

 

[grnberetcj]

Actually it's to use live bait this time of year!

But it's ok for people to use whatever they like and can afford.

Curt

 

[BigM-Perazzi]

Generally they go hand in hand. If you can't afford $2000 for a trap gun, you probably shouldn't shoot trap.......

Not to be confused with runnin' down to the local club for a round of trap...

Tournament style trap is expensive....

 

[wolfram]

The cost of the gun is almost always less than what you spend on ammo and targets. Just going to the range once a week and shooting 4 rounds will cost about $2K per year just for ammo and targets. That doesn't work out to well if you can't pay your living expenses.

 

[K4AA]

Not to worry. As part of Stimulus IV or Porkulus III (yet to be announced), you will be happy to hear that all middle class workers earning less than $250K/annum will receive free trap vouchers for one round of trap/week plus a 50% discount (gun stamps) on a shotgun of their choioce. This will be funded by all the weapons seized by the 2009 Holder-Obama Gun Retrieval Act and sold to the Iranians. This was formerly known as Iran-Contra, but will now be known as Iran-Obama. I know you are all laughing but . . . . . .

 

[highflyer]

If you are poor it is all about priorities. It doesn't take an expensive gun to win. The casinos around here are full of poor people. I don't know how many times I have been at the local convenience store and seen a poor person come in and buy a case of beer, cigarettes and lottery tickets.

 

[Big Jack]

Stand back in the local market..watch the grocery bills paid with food stamps and the groceries carried out to their Cadillac for the ride home. Priorities are confused. Just as highflier said, look around the casinos..the "poor" don't lack in their cigarette's, beer, or all the specialities their food stamps are permitted to buy. Just wait for the "O" boy to get everything in gear...why should they work, he's going to give them everything they need! Hell, they will have all kinds of money left over to shoot trap, or skeet, or S.C. Look out BIG DOGS.

 

[halfmile]

They could afford 250K homes, I'm sure they can shoot trap too.

Did anyone catche Dateline on the mortgage meltdown? showed a woman making 1600 monthly approved for a 2100 dollar payment.

someone's math skills were way off the bell curve.

HM

 

[highflyer]

I don't feel at any disadvantage when shooting my inexpensive Remingtons whether it be at skeet, trap or sporting clays. If I don't win it isn't because I didn't have an expensive gun. If I do win it is that much more rewarding knowing I beat all the guys with the expensive guns. The very first time I shot trap was with an old Ithaca 37 that I had hunted with for years. I shot a 23.

 

[ronbo142]

You have got to be kidding......

About time to wake up and smell the roses, shooting is an EXPENSIVE hobby, almost on par with GOLF yes is said it GOLF!

Gone are the days of the blue collar gun club. You have got to have BUCKS to play this game baby!

Ronbo

 

[highflyer]

I am a poor person. I have been all my life. I shoot a sporting clays tournament almost every weekend. The cost is about the same as a new car payment for the entire month not including the full coverage insurance required with a new car. I drive old cars with liability insurance. I would rather shoot. Like I said, it is all about priorities. You do not need an expensive gun. But even if you did it would be a fraction of the cost poor people put into buying boats and gasing them up to go fishing every weekend. The cost of an expensive gun is the same or less than a very cheap boat and motor.

 

[90Tshooter]

I'm not rich by anyones standards so I have to agree with highflyer, it's priorities. I have an F150 I bought new in 95 and a 90T I bought used in 96. I still have both and the 90T is now worth more than my truck. I would rather shoot than make $400 payments. I don't have a smoking or drinking habit to support either. I don't shoot as much trap as I once did but that's because I shoot more rifle and pistol now. Then there's the annual prairie dog trip. I must say that I can afford more shooting now that the kids are grown.

Joe

 

[Chango2]

There is one guy in our trapclub who bought some kind of very inexpensive over under new at some discount store. He modified it at home and is quite competitive..home made adjustable comb, etc. I am sure he can afford a more expensive gun, but I also think he enjoys "gunrodding"...I have tons of respect for his approach and sense of adventure. The only downside I see is that when his gun prematurely wears out, which is likely, he will have to start at ground zero with a new gun again.

But don't we all get different things out of the shooting sport? Would it not be a boring situation if we didn't?

 

[gunut]

so far all the stymulus money has gone to pay for the rich guys new car and trap shooting.........now obama is giving them more...along with big bucks for his poor pimps and beurocrats [sp]....middle class gets nothing but the bill............now let that CEO shoot another round B4 his tee time...and hey its on me.

 

[highflyer]

It can be intimidating when you first show up at the shooting range with your cheap pump or auto and see the guys with the expensive guns. Until you realize it doesn't make them shoot any better. If you do show up with an expensive gun you should be able to shoot it. I have seen some shooters show up with top dollar guns that can't shoot them. I have also seen some guys that can really shoot with cheap pumps.

 

[halfmile]

I shot my 1100's just as much as my Berettas. NO one ever gave me any flak.

But I like my 90T way more, because of the weight and no worrying about which choke to use. It's .035 from wherever I shoot, LOL.

Many a pump and auto have beaten me over the years. Just ask Rudy Etchen.

HM

 

[Spanky]

I'm in the same boat as 90Tshooter and Highflyer on this one.

And as far as the real High Dollar Guys, maybe "gunut" might not be too far from the truth. Is the stymulus keeping your trap game going?......your welcome........I'm just one of those blue collar schmucks, in the muck and myre, down and dirty, day to day funding it. I'm not complaining though. Someone has to do it and do it well.

 

[blizzard]

I usually shoot with the same guys, and since we've all been friends for many years, I do know what kind of gun they shoot. However, when I do shoot on a squad with people that I don't know, I can honestly say that I don't look to see what they are shooting. Who cares?



Now, if they ink ball 50 or 100 straight, I may look, even though I know it's not the gun. I also may look if their gun breaks, but other than that, I could care less.

 

[Chango2]

I haven't shot my high grade gun any better than my old Remington 870 comp. But I figure since the high grade gun is with me, may as well use it and run a precision piece of equipment for more enjoyment. The 870 is just fine.

The neat thing about high grade guns, if bought right, are a joy to own and shoot and appreciate if kept up and kept for a reasonable amount of time...say five years.

It's simple: The best time keeping instrument is a quartz Timex. It keeps time better than a Rolex. But we take our pleasures where we can afford them. Heck, I knew a guy, now deceased, a top 27 yard shooter here in so-cal, that traded off between his Perrazi and his self-done modified 870. He shot each about the same scorewise.

And maybe the old days were really cool; the "best" gun available, and affordable to almost was the Model 12 Winchester. BTW, I continue to think a pump gun makes tremendous sense for trap; less physical effort to load and handle. I bet I get flamed for this, but I do wish a high grade pump gun (with the balance of the Model 12) would come back on the scene. I think break open guns are a bit cumbersome for American trap and might be a legacy from the history of higher grade guns that were initially built for other venues such as flyer shooting.