You're so right, I did not think of the Gun Club to the Nitro's prices. So now I even feel better about reloading and saving money. As I was comparing the less expensive ammo. But I have found that the Gun Club has shot many of high 90's for me in the ATA. Same with the Nitro. On another note. The STS & Nitro's reload with better crimping, even though the Gun Club looks almost as good without changing anything on the reloader. I've reloaded Gun Clubs as well as the Nitro's over 7+ timesIf you find a handload that works well for you it will be equal to higher end ammo and you can load the same load all the time. If you shop for cheaper ammo you may not find the same brand everytime. Different brands will probably not shoot the same. Even The same brand may pattern differently from Lot to lot.
People compare Gun Club, Top Gun and other cheaper shell prices to reloading costs and state they are only saving .50 to .75 a box. . I compare my reloads to STS,, AA's and Federal Premium shells and save almost 3.00/box.
I don't know what i would have done during the shutdown during the pandemic if I didn't load a little over 28 flats of 12 ga,
Agree, Trump 2020!Given the political/economic environment we live in, I am happy that I have reloading gear not only for shotgun, but for metallic cartridges as well. For me, it is much easier to buy reloading components than loaded ammo. Yes, it is work and time consuming but, make your choice. While cost is an important factor, my survival against blm/antifa/democrat/communist thugs outweighs the cost factor for now. I have reloaded a boatload of 40 S&W for my p229, for which I am proficient with and glad I have it and it does perform very well and 5.56mm and 30-06. I keep the P229 next to me at night on the night stand, reload 5.56 for my AR15 platform and 30-.06 for my M1. Meanwhile, I keep reloading for trap, while is is not very cost effective, the benefit is you can reload what you want and keep shooting than run around town trying to find ammo/ or paying high shipping fees for ammo you want/need and it may not be what you want. Where you live can dictate what is available. Bottom line, make your choice.
But when I retired, the pay is the same. Reload or buy new.. I have a problem when I see the fired hulls sitting in a bucket calling my name. Shoot today... Reload tomorrow. Better than sitting inside the house watching worthless TV Shows with no values that or on today. (or any day) But love the old Westerns, and family shows. When not on.I'm in the garage!Always has been worth the hassle for me. But... you have to want to do it. It does not pay.
I agree and given the fact that just buying a flat of shells worthy of reloading in todays market is also a PITA. I'm headed out tomorrow to buy 4-6 flats and I already know that is going to be chore and will have to hit several stores in hopes of finding that.As said by others " It isn't a hassle, it's a hobby". Something to do when there is a foot of snow on the ground.
It's like any other hobby. If you enjoy it, do it. If money or cost is an issue, don't do it. Like others I find it relaxing and can forget about other problems for awhile. Plus, taking pride in what you're doing.10 years ago when I was shooting I reloaded using a MEC 9000H. Around 2010 I relocated to North Alabama and haven't shot since than. At the time I stopped reloading lead was getting so expensive it wasn't cost effective. I than sold ALL my loading equipment and supplies during a recent move (should not have done that).
Fast forward to now and I'm getting back into shooting and finding myself think well it sure would be nice if I had all that equipment I sold right now. I ran the numbers and it's still not cost effective to reload so that leaves just doing it as an extension of the sport and/or playing with special loads.
My thoughts were to keep it on the down low if I decided to pick up reloading again and buy a MEC 650N but after using a 9000H for a few years I'm think I'm spoiled on that machine or the Auto-Mate. I tend to be a all in or nothing kind of guy with my hobbies.
If you had it to do over would you reload? Do you have equipment now and don't reload?
FWIW. Don’t overlook the RCBS Grand in your decision making.Given my dismal trip out today to buy shells local looks likes getting back into reloading is going to come sooner than later. My luck on the internet this past week wasn't much better.
As I stated earlier my last machine was a MEC 9000H and while I did like this loader it could be finicky but when adjusted correctly it would crank out shells. I have also been looking at the Spolar Gold w/ hydraulics that appears to be a top shelf machine.
**The cost you soon forget but the quality stays with you forever**
Both machines would do well for me and I doubt I would wear either machine out in what time I have left. That being said I was reading another thread on MEC vs. Spolar and someone made mention that the MEC had the collet sizer for steel hulls and that they didn't load those on the Spolar. Can you load steel hulls (Remington Gun Club) on a Spolar?
I understand both machines are at each end of the spectrum from a cost point but I tend to over analyze this stuff to the ends of the earth before pulling the trigger.