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Expect to lose money on any trap guns you own. It will not be as great a loss as selling a boat. Be alert for bargains on guns you have have "lusted" for as prices will continue to drop.
The price of lead will only go so high before we start using steel (at least for practice). My guess is when "bulk" buys of lead get around $75/bag. At $50/bag I am reloading for under $55/flat. At 75$/bag my costs are $72/flat. ( 1 1/8 oz loads) Compared the total cost of a shoot, this is not going to have much of an impact for competitive shooters. Where is will hurt is practice and recreational shooting. Look at more people using 1 oz and 7/8 oz loads when shooting for "fun". Look at clubs increasing dues or "special assessments" to stay open. Trap only clubs will not survive - 5 stand and Sporting Clays bring in "fun" shooters.
I think we are wasting money on the programs for young shooters. Very few will stick with the sport due to either finding girls, finding boys, or the economics of the game. It will not be a hobby for the average Joe/Jane.
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The price of lead will only go so high before we start using steel (at least for practice). My guess is when "bulk" buys of lead get around $75/bag. At $50/bag I am reloading for under $55/flat. At 75$/bag my costs are $72/flat. ( 1 1/8 oz loads) Compared the total cost of a shoot, this is not going to have much of an impact for competitive shooters. Where is will hurt is practice and recreational shooting. Look at more people using 1 oz and 7/8 oz loads when shooting for "fun". Look at clubs increasing dues or "special assessments" to stay open. Trap only clubs will not survive - 5 stand and Sporting Clays bring in "fun" shooters.
I think we are wasting money on the programs for young shooters. Very few will stick with the sport due to either finding girls, finding boys, or the economics of the game. It will not be a hobby for the average Joe/Jane.
Just my $.02
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I was gonna stop chewing tobacco when it hit 35 cents a can, then i said if it hits a dollar I'm done! 40 years later still dippin
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"Could increased shot prices, target prices, club fees, etc... eventually make the sport obsolete or at least cost prohibitive for all but the rich?"
Far as I'm concerned...it already has.
Far as I'm concerned...it already has.
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Check out this link; lead prices are and always have been cyclical.
http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/lead_historical.html
John
http://www.kitcometals.com/charts/lead_historical.html
John
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N.J. Bob,
My trap gun may be, I really don't want to give up the sport, I really do still enjoy it. If I sell my gun, then I no longer need my reloader, or all my components and if I let all that go I doubt I will get back into the sport, I don;t know if I am ready for that yet.
Buuut I havent shot in a year and its not looking good for this year either... the Browning may be listed on here shortly.
My trap gun may be, I really don't want to give up the sport, I really do still enjoy it. If I sell my gun, then I no longer need my reloader, or all my components and if I let all that go I doubt I will get back into the sport, I don;t know if I am ready for that yet.
Buuut I havent shot in a year and its not looking good for this year either... the Browning may be listed on here shortly.
I believe the laws of supply and demand will apply.
As lead goes up in price, producers will increase mining and production capabilities. Scrap will come out of the woodwork also, should prices go to $1.00 a pound.
No doubt prices will go up, but there will be some limit. There is plenty of lead still in the ground.
The bigger problem is the demonization of elemental lead by the environmental-antigun-government complex.
As lead goes up in price, producers will increase mining and production capabilities. Scrap will come out of the woodwork also, should prices go to $1.00 a pound.
No doubt prices will go up, but there will be some limit. There is plenty of lead still in the ground.
The bigger problem is the demonization of elemental lead by the environmental-antigun-government complex.
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I also do not understand how pistol and rifle ammo seems to have gone down in price over the last couple months while shot has gone up.
They are both lead but pistol and rifle ammo uses copper as well, yet the price is steady, whats the deal?
They are both lead but pistol and rifle ammo uses copper as well, yet the price is steady, whats the deal?
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I'm sorry to inform a lot of you this sport was never intended for average Joe's! this sport is for the Wealthy and Elite of Society, how many of you commoners attend Polo matches or go to the Opera or Broadway shows, most of you are or where bowlers, card players or pool players. The people with money will continue to shoot, the rest will retrier to a more app-orate activities for there income. Good Luck!
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Think pretty highly of yourself huh Darkness... I know many people that I would consider wealthy and none of them have this "hollier than thou" attitude...
Money wont buy you friendship, particularly not with that attitude..
Money wont buy you friendship, particularly not with that attitude..
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I shouldn't jump in yet, but I see by your response, your unfamiliar with some of my fine cast that I posted over the years just to get some adverse reaction on a subject. sorry I shouldn't have used suck a Big lure.
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Slipping all I can do is laugh, you got me wound up Ill admit it....well played sir
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