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These responses are priceless! No ... I dont hunt with a release.. never did. I dont even hunt anymore.. I have duck hunted with a friend years ago that shot a model 12 with a release. We hunted in our own sneakboxes. Never had a problem.. we shot alot of ducks and had alot of fun gunning. Those days are over...
 
#24 ·
I shoot trap (BTW not very well anymore) with a release and birds for the dogs with a pull. Yes I do, on occasion "flinch" with both. I'm assuming you folks realize that most (if not all) "safeties" only prevent the trigger from being "pulled". That is , the hammer is still cocked and only being held by the sear engagement, not the "safety". That being said, ALL loaded or unloaded guns should be handled in a safe manner, release or pull trigger. I don't see myself carrying a release in the field. I already put enough pressure on myself trying to hit the bird with one shot for the dogs.:confused:

Hauxfan, we hunted with the same kind of guy. He would also cycle that 1100 so fast you thought it impossible!
 
#25 ·
I do not shoot a release,

I would not like to hunt with someone using one, Mainly cause I doubt there is a safety in it anymore.

DGH
 
#26 ·
So why not hunt with someone with a release? I see a bunch of no's but no one saying why not, sounds like a bunch of people at are just following a party line and have no real concept of what's going on.

I shoot Annie's, trap and sporting clays with a bunch of guys that shoot release and they don't seem to have any problem making there shotgun safe if they don't get the shot at a Annie target or a clay comes off the trap busted. Its not like they are walking around with there finger holding the trigger down. If a release trigger has the chance to be pulled causing a negligent discharge what makes you think that a pull trigger wouldn't have the same issue assuming of course the shotgun has a safety but here again anyone trusting a safety alone is asking for problems.
 
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Muddydogs said:
So why not hunt with someone with a release? I see a bunch of no's but no one saying why not, sounds like a bunch of people at are just following a party line and have no real concept of what's going on.

I shoot Annie's, trap and sporting clays with a bunch of guys that shoot release and they don't seem to have any problem making there shotgun safe if they don't get the shot at a Annie target or a clay comes off the trap busted. Its not like they are walking around with there finger holding the trigger down. If a release trigger has the chance to be pulled causing a negligent discharge what makes you think that a pull trigger wouldn't have the same issue assuming of course the shotgun has a safety but here again anyone trusting a safety alone is asking for problems.
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I too shoot a release for trap Muddydogs and I also hunt Upland birds like Woodcock and Ruffed Grouse and sometimes Pheasant. If you have ever been down in a nasty cedar swamp chasing Grouse or Woodcock you would understand. Once that trigger is set, you have to hold onto it and that is not a good thing in those conditions. I have been in some pretty crazy situations where a bird has flushed and if I would have set a trigger on a release and attempted those shots, I would probably have shot the dog, possibly shot numerous trees, and maybe my partner. I have swung on birds and had my arm hit a limb. That is all it would take to make your hand relax on that trigger......you are just asking for a major problems hunting with a release. Why would you want to add that danger to your hunt ? I would rather sleep with rattlesnakes than hunt with someone using a release. Release triggers are great when used in the right situation, as I said, I have shot one for 24 years at TRAP and it let me continue to enjoy that sport. I have yet to this day had any issues flinching when I hunt, shoot sporting clays or skeet with a pull trigger with the gun down. I am just sharing my opinion here, but as you can tell by the way this thread is going, it is just not a safe practice.

Don
 
#28 ·
Muddydogs said:
So why not hunt with someone with a release? I see a bunch of no's but no one saying why not, sounds like a bunch of people at are just following a party line and have no real concept of what's going on.
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Because we've all shot trap next to release trigger shooters and have seen the demise of grass and trap house paint jobs because of it.
 
#30 ·
Bird hunting by definition is unpredictible shooting so, using a release is hazardous.

Release can be used without problems in the shooting ranges where people can follow
the safety rules.

What is the advantage to hunt with a release trigger gun, anyway?

Bill
http://xdsolution.com/
 
#32 ·
Muddydogs said:
So why not hunt with someone with a release? I see a bunch of no's but no one saying why not, sounds like a bunch of people at are just following a party line and have no real concept of what's going on.

I shoot Annie's, trap and sporting clays with a bunch of guys that shoot release and they don't seem to have any problem making there shotgun safe if they don't get the shot at a Annie target or a clay comes off the trap busted. Its not like they are walking around with there finger holding the trigger down. If a release trigger has the chance to be pulled causing a negligent discharge what makes you think that a pull trigger wouldn't have the same issue assuming of course the shotgun has a safety but here again anyone trusting a safety alone is asking for problems.
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548 said:
Because we've all shot trap next to release trigger shooters and have seen the demise of grass and trap house paint jobs because of it.
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Muddydogs said:
Same can be said for pull triggers.
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Oh come on, 548's rebuttal should have been enough, but your lack of critical thinking on this issue just gets worse after accusing others of "following a party line and having no real concept of what's going on."

In reality, it is you who apparently has no concept of field conditions for hunting, as opposed to shotgun sports in controlled environments. Apparently a comparison is in order.

Trap: You shoot from a fixed position, meaning no walking while you have a loaded gun ready to fire.

Sporting clays: Ditto for five stand. For those sporting clays fields that require you to walk through a scenario, I question the safety of doing this with a release, but at least it is in a controlled environment that likely has little or no debris to trip over, and you are running the course without partners on your left and right or dogs.

Field: Where I hunt there are roots, rocks, old barbed wire, vines, stickers, slick rocks in water, mud, fallen trees and branches, squirrel burrows, and other clutter that can cause you to trip.

I'm not a fan of release triggers, but I believe they can be used in a safe manner when the shooter is not moving about. I see no problem with trap, five stand or skeet. Maybe blind hunting. But upland hunting? No freaking way.

As for pull triggers, this is only a problem in the field if people do not use them and worse walk around with their finger on the trigger. A release trigger violates the "finger off the trigger until ready to shoot" rule. The exception is outlined in the previous paragraph.
 
#33 ·
Good point, Pat, but I've found when upland, squirrel, rabbit and varmint hunting that sometimes you have to make a last minute change in position. This requires movement with a release trigger engaged. It's a simple matter of removing your finger from the trigger on a conventional gun. Can't do that as easily or quickly with a release, and re-engaging the safety easily varies on the guns. I believe those with a release will simply move with the release engaged. This is just as wrong as moving with your finger on the trigger on a gun regeardless of whether the safety is engaged or not. I believe release triggers are just not safe for field conditions. If people want to hunt with a release trigger, perhaps they can find others with release triggers to hunt with. I won't hunt with them, nor will I hunt with someone with a firearm that has no safety (passive or active). Guns without safeties belong on the range, not in the field.
 
#34 ·
B. in O:
A release trigger violates the "finger off the trigger until ready to shoot" rule.

Really? You honestly believe that a hunter with a release trigger walks thru the woods with his finger on the trigger? I see no reason for a release shooter to be nearer the trigger than the pull trigger guy.

Man, I'm glad we are past the set trigger on the muzzle loader days. That one would have you all cackeling for decades...

dju
 
#35 ·
DJU, please read my reply to Pat. Apparently you missed it.

And I have used a set trigger in the field. From a FIXED POSITION. I don't move around with a set trigger engaged.
 
#36 ·
Pat and DJU, keeping an open mind, let's try this...

Can anyone who actually hunts in the field with a release trigger please address point by point some of the concerns raised in this thread and how you safely handle that scenario?
 
#37 ·
B:
DJU, please read my reply to Pat. Apparently you missed it.
And I have used a set trigger in the field. From a FIXED POSITION. I don't move around with a set trigger engaged.

I didn't miss it. Apparently we were writing at the same time.
Never said you did move around in the field with a set trigger set, did I?

But you are right. Time to let those with actual experience of hunting with a release trigger settle this one. All the rest of us have made our positions clear and should butt out. Myself included.

dju
 
#38 ·
I few years ago my hunting friend brought his Brother in Law hunting with us, walking up rabbits through the bush.
His Brother in Law had just purchased an older English SxS, hammer gun and he insisted on walking through the bush with the gun on full cock. I never hunted with either of them again and I would feel the same way with someone who hunted with a release trigger. Keep it for the trap field.
Devonian.
 
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