What brand is it?

 

Jim, till 1965, chilled was all we could get! Even new shells! Shoot them at lower velocities and enjoy the smoke!

HAP

 

Most likely 2% antimony

 

Load it in 16yrd or first shot/dbls and you'll be fine.

 

Chilled will work fine to the 25 for sure, if kept at lower velocities! The great wad choices we have today makes for a better chilled shot load than any prior to 1965!

HAP

 

Chilled will work fine to the 25 for sure, if kept at lower velocities!

So what happens to chilled shot at higher velocities?

 

2% was considered the best as Hap said, prior to 1965. All the factory loads used "chilled" shot with 2% antimony. Federal started the trend to 6% in order to attempt to gain market share and Remington and Winchester quickly followed. The pattern differences were impressive, especially with the 1965 intro by Remington of the one-piece Power Piston(r) wad!!

Now things are going the other way (with Federal) on the shot to keep cost down. Is that a good strategy? We'll see.

Scott Hanes

 

Why is hard shot better. We used to shoot lead at ducks it was far more effective than steel both for distince and knock down???HW. Although lead required more lead.

 

Back in the day when we shot ducks with lead shot, the shot used in most heavy duck loads was in fact Magnum or HARD lead shot.
MG

 

According to my wife who stepped on some I had spilled on the kitchen floor while she was barefooted, its very hard. I never had the nerve to have her test regular shot.

 

Hard shot patterns better because the pellets stay rounder on set-back on ignition and fly truer. For hunting purposes, the softer lead imparted a bit more energy by flattening out on the animals bones. The ones that go through don't impart as much energy, but they still HURT. (like a bullet on a deer, if the full energy of the bullet is impacted on the animal, it tends to have a better effect)

Scott Hanes

 

The bag of "CHILLED" shot is Lawrence The bag of "FIELD GRADE" is Remington.

 

according to a chart i have lawrence chilled shot is 0.90 % antimony equivalant, thats for 7 1/2 shot

 

Isn't the question how chilled is hard shot?

 

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Back in the day when we shot ducks with lead shot, the shot used in most heavy duck loads was in fact Magnum or HARD lead shot.
MG

Based on that chart, I'm guessing anyone can throw the word MAGNUM on a bag of shot and it really not mean anything!

IE, that Eagle Magnum way down towards the bottom of the chart.

 

Thanks STEVE Hard to argue with the chart. Pretty soft huh??
Obliged
Jim

 

In these days of high priced shot, we shoot anything we can get. Old bags, very very old bags of chilled shot with white oxide will do for our weekly old guys Wednesday shooting.
But when I really want to tell my inner self that I am serious, I shoot Winchester AA or my reloads with the best hard shot and AA components.
I know that it is a bit of mumbo jumbo at my humble level of competition, but confidence is an element in good shooting.

I really appreciate the table of shot hardness. This year Neil Winston's testing put Browning competition loads at the very top of the shot hardness and performance scale, I believe.

 

I picked up 2 bags of chilled 7.5 (Lawrence) by mistake once. I shot them all at 16 yards, in the summer league. My scores were slightly lower. Not sure if it was the hardness difference or the fewer pellets since they weren't 8s or 8.5s. Wouldn't try it again if I had a choice. Another bad choice is to pick up Eagle 7.5s, thinking they are as good(large) as it's competitors.

Bob Falfa

 

So what happens to chilled shot at higher velocities?

JH, when I had only chilled shot to reload with, I had much better luck with a 2-3/4 dr load than any of higher velocities! Arnold Riegger always that same load when he was the dominate ATA man to beat!

I also loaded some at higher velocities and patterned them, you wouldn't beleive how much they can spread out, unless you tried it!

HAP

 

I think the patterns opened up because of deformed shot more than anything. Hard shot and wad improvements have really helped to cut that down. If we study Neil's work speed alone does little to the pattern at the trap velocities we use.

 

Jim,
Shoot it for 16 yard thru a full choke, and you will be good to go.

Coot

 

Several references to shooting chilled shot at lower velocities. I have managed to end up with about 10 bags of chilled shot 7.5's. How low is "lower velocities?" 1200 fps? 1150 fps? 1090 fps? Looking for recommendations. Thanks. JPM