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I'd like to put something under ground. There's an outlet on the back side of the house, but it's on the wrong side of the stoop. The cement patio is in the way as you can see here. On the other side of the stoop is a window well and dirt. Thoughts?

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Best bet is a dedicated line right from you breaker panel.

Do you have a basement/crawl space that you could come out of??

Whatever you do I would suggest running the underground wire inside conduit - perhaps a 12 gauge wire (20 amp) but put it inside at least a 1" pipe (plastic is fine). Be sure to use 'UF' rated wire (underground feeder). Not sure of your needs for power - you certainly could go bigger - even add a 240 V cable - but be sure to go big on the conduit. Anytime you bury cable heat becomes an issue - especially in a 'tight' conduit - better to give it extra room to shed the heat...
 

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Joe, I would advise not to use that outlet as an option, Bad Idea. If your gonna do that you might just as well string out a Heavy Duty Extension Cord and hope for the best. That is if it's at least a 20a GFCI outlet. HSLDS advice is the way to go. Or get one of Your Electrician Buddies from the Club and get his advice, and maybe his help.. Then there are those code issues.
 

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As the others have said, it all depends on what you are going to run.
If not much you could probably get by finding an outlet in the wall closest to the shed and go thru the outside to hook it up.
otherwise, best to come out of the main panel.

JMHO
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To avoid having to get a permit ,which is a bitch here, I ran a 8o ft 12 ga; uf wire in a 1/2 inch pvc pipe underground like an extension cord. From an outside GFI 20 amp outlet that the whole circuit was dedicated to only 4 outlets wired with 12 gauge wire, which none was in use. I was able to safely run about 10 amps max at this distance which measured from the panel was about 104 feet total length. It is difficult to push more out of a 12 gauge wired circuit when you exceed 100 feet. This was for my shed where I store my ammo and powder with lighting and a dehumidifier on a timer.
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Fenced yard , big, mean German Shepard, 5 people with 3rd degree and higher black belts, guns police sergeant next door, two huge retired military/longshoreman types across the road, my wonderful good natured tolerant reputation for tresspassers, yes pretty safe neighborhood. LOL No room for porn, as I keep a rather good supply of components and ammo. Hey, don't give my wife ideas like that or she will start snooping around and I got enough injuries already. Can't shoot now because of ribs and collarbone. You guys keep giving her ideas and she'll wire the stinkn shed doornob to the circuitry and have me sh=tting my drawers when I grab it.
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No offense here, but if you are needing to ask, my advice is hire a licensed electrician. Bad electrical work can burn your house down. That would make mama mad.

The fact you suggested the other outside receptacle, tells me you really should use a pro on this one.
 

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Grntitan has the best advise. Also, you need to check your equipment once a year by testing each circuit breaker performs correctly. I suggest if you have not already, upgrade your electrical service panel, install all circuits with combo gfi/afi breakers where possible, check ground resistance, etc. Things like lightning strikes can be mitigated with proper equipment and precautions, saving you equipment loss and circuit damage. My solution is only considered an extension cord not an alteration to the system by my insurance company, you got to check to be sure to not void your fire insurance policy.
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I was able to safely run about 10 amps max at this distance which measured from the panel was about 104 feet total length. It is difficult to push more out of a 12 gauge wired circuit when you exceed 100 feet.
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Sounds like an awful lot of drop for that wire/distance combination. I would think you'd get 15 Amps all day...

You can calculate it yourself - Voltage Drop Calculator
 
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Would not dream of taxing a wire like that, best to be safe with a nice margin. Below is a voltage drop table, sorry about the pdf, but just open it and you can get a good idea of what is ok to run.
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Get underground type 12/2 with a ground (it has a grey color covering). Best to come off a dedicated breaker in your main panel. Take a straight shovel and make a slit 6" to 8" deep all the way to your shed. Take a thin piece of wood and push the cable down into the slit. Close the slit with your feet.

I have run electricity to a shed 50 yards from my house that way. I used the same method to run new release wire for our Skeet field. Use a piece of conduit to cover any exposed wire where it enters the house or shed just so you do not tear it up with a weed eater.
 

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Joe: IMO, you are better off running a regular 12 ga. ext. cord from your basement to your shed and just bury it under the grass a few inches. You now can run a couple of things to keep you happy if the line is not over 100 ft. Keep the plug unplugged in the basement until you want to use it (in the shed), so the ext. cord is not live all the time.

If you want/or need more than its time to go to a lic. Elect. contractor and get permits and do it right. This will cost you over a grand I would think. If you run anything that will be permanent than you have to get a permit. If you have a fire and they find out a lic. Contractor did not do the work and/or you did not pull a permit you will never get a nickel out of your insurance company. Or if you need to sell the home down the road and the home inspector finds this line the house sale will not go though and you'll have a lot of explaining to do. Good Luck and break em all Jeff
 

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From a retired electrical contractor do th e following:

1) dig a trench which will give you at least 18" of cover over the the PVC conduit

2)use a vacuum cleaner to pull your drag line thru the conduit

3) pull 4 wires 10 ga black, red , white & free to the shed

4) install a small panel in the shed

5) install what you need in the shed from the panel via rx

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Must be a pretty safe neighborhood to store in a shed.....
$hit, Aloha probably owns 25% of the guns in the whole f*****g state!

He probably backs over 10 Hillary signs every time he goes to the store.

Worst his neighbors could do to him would be to blow $hitty smelling incense his way and pelt him with empty box wine boxes!
 

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Phil,

If he installs a remote panel does he need a ground rod for it by the shed??

Also - Joe if you do instal a remote panel you will want to isolate the ground bar and the neutral bar from one another in the panel...
 

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Honestly, I have great neighbors, and they almost never complain except the time my wife hit the garage door down twice, so I wrote in three foot letters in red paint "Stop the F=cking door is closed! My neighbor said it was quite distracting to look out from his house and see that. The hillary sign holders are getting faster as I don't catch many any more as I like to airhorn them close up. My old friend who passed away a few years ago, use to have his car rigged with a manaquin arm on his hood, and when he would beep the horn he would yank a string which raised the arm posing with the middle finger. It reminds me of the many colorful guys that have gone on,
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No, but separate ground bar is needed inside the panel & all the green wires are connected to it and the neutral bar is not bonded to the panel--you can drive a separate ground rod & connect it to the additional ground bar--another redundant ground

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