JD - I was given several of these 15 years ago when I was shooting alot of trap. I called Hodgden and they said I could use them as a Winchester 209. I loaded and used about 1500 of them. I decided to keep the rest, I think I have about 800 left. I had no problems with them in my reloads, but probably wouldn't do it again being older and hopefully wiser. Ben Peterson