Hodgdon High Gun?

jfoh said:

I saw that. Now it comes down to pressures.

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And stack height.

Swing and a miss. On stack high. Especially if your looking to load Straight walled hulls. High gun calls for the same bushing numbers as tightgroup.

Here is the bushing chart:

https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/hornady.pdf

Both powders are uber dense. HG appears to have the same density as Titegroup. PP appears to be slightly less dense than WSH.

I really don't get it. Hodgdon is out of stock of 700X. This goes on and on but now here they go coming out with a new powder. Hodgdon can keep the new stuff, I won't be buying it.

So the charge weights for high gun and titegroup use the same bushings from what I see.

Lonesome 154 said:

I really don't get it. Hodgdon is out of stock of 700X. This goes on and on but now here they go coming out with a new powder. Hodgdon can keep the new stuff, I won't be buying it.

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Hodgdon does not make powder. They get their powders from 2 places, both owned by General Dynamic. The ball powders come from the plant in Florida and the flake powders, such as 700X and the Clays powders come from the plant in Canada. The flake powders from Canada all seem to be in short supply while the powders from Florida seem to be more abundant. It appears Florida has excess production capacity while Canada is constrained. Don't blame it on Hodgdon, blame it on General Dynamics and the war in Ukraine.

In times of shortages, it pays to be flexible and learn to use what you can get instead of bellyaching that you can't get what you want.

Perfect Pattern looks like what I need. As Tim says the load listed is about what I am loading with Clays.

AHI said:

Data and bushing reference is up on Hodgdons site.

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And none for 20 gauge that I could see, unless I missed them. Is it too much to ask for a decently-priced (like less than $250) powder that is in stock for 20 gauge?? Asking for a friend... LOL

Hodgdon DOES have reloading data for Perfect Pattern and Hi Gun on its website.


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I'm hoping that High Gun becomes and remains available in quantity for some time. To me it would be a good replacement for Green Dot which I use in both 1oz and 1 1/8oz loads.
Anything that can replace the "Dots" is a blessing as Federal/Alliant have screwed reloaders over the past several years.

Mine is scheduled for delivery tomorrow. Nice that there are lots of published loads on Hodgdon’s site now.

I wonder if Hodgdon does in fact have a much more reliable source now for the new shotgun powders. I assumed that Hodgdon would have undergone all the testing for Titegroup by now as they did with the new powders but it appears they didn't. Maybe the two new powders will have more availability if they posted all that data already.

sharp shooter too said:

I wonder if Hodgdon does in fact have a much more reliable source now for the new shotgun powders. I assumed that Hodgdon would have undergone all the testing for Titegroup by now as they did with the new powders but it appears they didn't. Maybe the two new powders will have more availability if they posted all that data already.

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No new source. The 'Safety Data Sheet' for the two new powders indicates that General Dynamics in St. Marks, Florida is the manufacturer.