Yes, the last few years have expanded my reloading senses to new levels. It would cost me the price savings of 16 to 24 pounds of the new stuff to send out reloads to be tested. So I bought 16 pounds of titewad instead and saved myself the bother. C'mon Hodgdon, you have a new product you want to sell, don't be half assed about it. Show me the data. On your shotshell reloading data website! I stock and plan years in advance, it is not professional for a new product to come out without real world data.The data for both powders are enough to give me a sense of how they perform such that i could come up with some loads with components i have that I could send in for testing and have a reasonable chance the data would come back within the pressure range.