Hodgdon High Gun?

It is new. They just applied for the Trademark on April 11.

Cool. It’s probably not too far from Titegroup.

I would like to try it, if and when it ever becomes available. Looks interesting.

Ric

They also have a new powder called “perfect pattern”. It appears to be a 1oz load powder. Likely not too far off from Titewad.

Why come out with new powders when we can't get much of their current line of powders? Bring back PB and SR4756 .

colonel klink said:

Why come out with new powders when we can't get much of their current line of powders? Bring back PB and SR4756 .

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My thought was they came out with these new ones since their supplier for Clays/International/Universal won't make those products for them this year. So they found another factory and came up with new names for whatever the other factory can make.

Seems to be much the same as Tite Group, which they already have.

Yeah why make a spin off of Titegroup. Can’t wait to see the price of this one tho.

it would be outstanding if they brought back 4756

I am for all the choices I can get. If from a second source and it closely duplicates a powder which is hit or miss on availability all the better. Pity they dropped IMR Green and Red. They could have sold a trainload in the past year. I wish they would bring back a limited run of powders every two to four years like PB, 800X, SR4756 and a few others. Make it, sell it in four pound containers and tell people this will be it for 2-4 years. Stock up now if you want it.

I just want powder prices to be at a normal inflation level not what they are today and available !

Interested to see when this starts trickling out. Powder Valley has it listed already

sharp shooter too said:

Cool. It’s probably not too far from Titegroup.

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I've never used Titegroup but it is listed as "spherical". The High Gun lists it as "flattened spherical". Wouldn't that make it slightly different than Titegroup? Of is that just a misnomer?

With so many powder companies under Hodgdon's control, my first guess would have been massive consolidation and/or culling of like powders, whereby to greatly thin the heard, and not the introduction of yet more powders.

What Hodgdon can do is come up with a set of parameters for a powder. Flake size, shape, burn rate and do on. The powder maker can supply them with a blend that meets that profile. That’s how we got IMR Green. It was not exactly the same but so close to the same on Green was another’s GreenDot. Alliant returned the favor with ClayDot which makes me wonder who is making ClayDot when Clays will not be made until 2024 or later. Their new powders might be their way of replacing one maker as a source with another and trying to eliminate some of the small grain size mess of their current powder.

We also need to consider most of our powders are blended, not single base powders. If a maker has two different formulas, to make the same powder, then it allows them more manufacturing flexibility. One powder might just need a bit of retardant added to change burn characteristics to be another powder. I always had a suspicion Red and Greed Dot were just altered versions of one or the other.

If they are spherical (flatted or otherwise) they come from the General Dynamics plant in St. Marks, FL, the same plant that makes Titegroup, Titewad, all the Win shotgun powders, Nitro 100 and Competition. Maybe they found a way to make them more bulky to help with the stack height.

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