[DoRaMa]

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Hello folks,

I need some help here. I got this shell a couple of days ago.

3 were found in the fellows grand fathers home. Is ol boy has lived in the same house since 1948.

Copper head, paper body, roll style crimp, and looks like a rim fire.

The length is 1.582 inches

The diameter of the paper portion of the cartridge is .317

The diameter of the copper head is .349

The shot shell head stamp is a W or M with a diameter of .400

One was cut apart. Powder, over powder card & say size 12 shot.

My guess, bird shot load for something. But really, I don't have a clue.

Thanks Kevin @ 402-463-3415

 

[Hydra]

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Pic's of the two ends would be nice.

 

[clb]

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Kevin,

It's a 9mm Long Shot Cartridge by Winchester made for the Winchester Model 36 single shot shotgun. They came in 50 to a box. If you can find a full box at a gun show, it will set you back about $200 or more.

Chuck Bishop

 

[Hitapair]

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Agree w/ chuckie. I've got a full box but not for sale.

 

[DoRaMa]

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OK, sounds good to me.

Thanks

Kevin @ 402-463-3415

 

[clb]

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Hitapair, I have a partial box of about 15. Do you also have the Model 36? I always look for them at gun shows but rarely see one however I have seen them asking up to $1500 which I find hard to believe.

 

[Frank C]

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I have one as well, Chuckie is correct, it is for a Winchester Model 36 shotgun manufactured from 1920-1927, it is not a .32 cal rimfire as they were apparently brass not paper.

Check out the link to gunbroker.com FC

 

[Hitapair]

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Don't have the M 36. Never seen one priced any where near 1500. I haven't paid much attention lately, but around 4-500 is what I've seen them at. Seems that a lot of them are pretty rough shape. I get the impression that a lot of them stood in the corner of the barn or shed most of their life and they look like it. I suppose a really mint one could be as high as you see them because most are not in great shape.

 

[frostyman]

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The old winchester 9mm shot shells are expensive but Fiocchi makes new ones of these. They are pretty cheap but not a lot of places have them due to very little demand.

 

[DoRaMa]

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win1911sl

"Kevin; When will we see wads for this hull? LOL Jerry"

Like a baby .410 wad? Hum!!!!!!!!

Better call Mec and Spolar and have them tool up!

Question: Was this a rim fire or center fire?


Kevin