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I'm shooting Clays now and have moved to 25yd: i would like to try a little tighter and faster load this year(shoot 1/18 loads).The most important factor is felt recoil. I would appreciate your opinions on Green dot/ titegroup and any others you like for handicap. Thanks
 

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Buy a new box of Nitro 27's.

If you like them go buy a jug of titegroup.

Hodgdon has the load. Be carful with the dense powder.

HM
 

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Try Clays International [close to Green Dot] for tight center group patterns at yardage. You can down size the load to 20.0 grains International, AA or Remington hull, Blue Duster or Spolar Gold wad, AA primer, 1 1/8 oz. of 7.5's = 1,250 ft./sec. on my chronograph. Fred
 

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Fred's (fssberson) load involving International Clays is an excellent one...I use about 19 instead of 20 grs....Intl Clays is very consistent and clean. Best Regards, Ed
 

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blackfoot - I too used clays for handicap at one time - and am now on the 25. I have used International @ appx 19.3 grains in AA and STS hulls with WW 209 primer with 1 1/8 of 7 1/2's - worked well. However, I have found that my #32 MEC bushing throws about 18.7 grains of GreenDot. I now use this with AA hulls and win209 primers with 1 1/8 of 7 1/2's and it smokes targets (when I do my part) and seems to hit my shoulder less than the international load. GreenDot may be a little dirtier than International, but not significantly so. The same loads works well in STS hulls too.GreenDot is now my handicap powder. I am not a big-dog, nor do I burn up the score sheets, but I feel you do not need the slobber-knocker loads to break good scores at handicap
 

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I like Titegroup.

Opinions may vary.

Try both.

The one thing I've notice that makes a difference (if only in my head) is to use good, hard shot like Remington.
 

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Being on the 25 and practicing on the 27, I have found Unique gives good speed, crushing breaks, and mild recoil. It is a bulky powder, and one cannot double charge it with the suggested components. Using a #38 Mec bushing means one will not overcharge!

I have tried most powders, and like the 8500 PSI the slower powder generates in a 1250 fps load. My best performing load is in a GM hull with the Fed 209A primer. I also use Rio primers in Rio hulls with a slight powder bump, to a #38A bushing.

Check out Alliant data.
 

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Fellas, thanks for all your help! I think I'm not going to reinvent the wheel and will try Green Dot this winter and see if i can find something that will take me to the promise land! Best Regards
 

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Martin and Pat:

I think those of us who are trying to develop a good handicap load using Green Dot would appreciate learning about your pet loads. Can you both share that with us?

Also, seems like I've heard that Green Dot has some issues when used during our midwest winters. Have you found this to be true?

Thanks to both...
 

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Old Fowler - I have never given a specific load on this site. It is too easy to make a typo error that could be dangerous. Just look in the Alliant reloading manual (available on line). For handicap, I load Winchester wads and primers in AA hulls with 1 1/8 shot. I seek a velocity for 1200 to no more than 1230 ft/sec. I use Green Dot. A quick look at the Alliant manual will tell you how much Green Dot I use.

I like my handicap reload better than new Winchester Super Handicap shells. I cannot explain why I shoot a lot of new Winchester handicap shells. This makes no sense to me, but I have done other things that make no sense to me.

And, I like Green Dot more than Martin does.

Pat Ireland
 
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