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Dr.longshot has been in training and is down to 219 Lbs from 243 and still losing. Hefting his Silver Seitz to build up his arm muscles.

Hefting and quickly pointing at dots on the wall in various sizes simulating varying distances.

His trigger set and release points are staying in his tolerances w/o changing.

He got his #3 high shooting Seitz Factory adjustable rib 6 weeks ago and POI is dialed in.

Odds makers from Las Vegas have been calling me for information, I told them I was their man. I told them the ALL AMERICAN was GOING DOWN.!!!

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Gary,

Congadulations, 24 pounds is quite a bit to lose. Keep up the good work. I am chasing you but a long ways behind. Started two weeks ago. Gone from 305 down to 293 this morning. Do not think I will catch you, but I will give it a good try. Working on getting my new Blaser dialed in. need a few more tweeks and I think I will have it.
Keep up the good work,

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Dr. Longshot It seems both "fighters" are getting ready. This match is going to be hard to handicap. If I were you and BIGDON I'd both watch my back, spys are everywhere today.

The trophies are being made, the plan is to have the match in front of the OSTA Hall of Fame start time at 6:05 eastern, 3:05 pacific.

The office and pre squading closes at 6:00 so everyone should have time to get a drink and head for the traps.

I'll be updating info as the time nears, Good Luck, and Thanks Again. What you and BIGDON are doing for charity is a good thing. Brad
 

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You lose to much weight and that ole heavy Seitz will just tip you over forwards and it will be hard to shoot with the muzzle in the dirt.

Actually I am trying out some new 1850 fps shells I found at a K-mart that was going out of business. These shells are so fast that the shot gets to the target before the pin hits the primer.

Just as a reminder this is not a protection shoot so you can't have any one backing you up, it's just you.

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Ok, who's got the flyer for this battle of the Classics...

Why isn't it posted...
 

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News flash... "Grudge Match 2012" a match wanted by and made on TSC.COM Our motto at the Ohio State Shoot "if you ask for it we do our best to get it."

The rules, 25 targets shot from 25 yards, 3 hole 53 yard, pulled by hand like the "old days" ..and.. 25 targets shot from 30 yards like today, short, soft, and narrow...voice pull.

Event to be held infront of the OSTA Hall of Fame at the Cardinal Center on Monday (FUN DAY) June 18, 2012. The Ohio State Trap Shooting Championships. Start time 6:05 pm eastern.

As with any dual seconds should present their charges... from Michigan the Spartan "BIGDON" and from Ohio the Buckeye Protector "Dr. Longshot"... to the line at this time. The event will commence with the phrase "gentlemen good luck and may the best man win"

Poster to appear at later date. News flash at any time.

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I hope someone with a Flip video can make sure that all of us, `gasp` not going to that shoot will be able to view it on UTube.

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...News Flash..."Grudge Match 2012"....update....offers will be accepted on this TSC thread for qualified line personal for the match.."BIGDON vs Dr. Longshot"....to be held at the Ohio State Trap Shoot Shoot on 6-18-12.....All interested parties please post your reason for wanting, and qualifications for the position in 5000 words or less......

Thank You
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I'll bet $100 US dollars on Big Don to win, to be donated to a worthy charity such as youth shooting etal

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50 flash targets would show up great on a video during the 30 yard event!! To help Jerry B. see which targets are broken or at least hit? :)

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I want everybody here and the ATA to know what I stand for and what the ATA needs to do for the Joe Average Shooter that is the main support for the ATA.

Why are so many ATA Officials wanting to penalize every new shooter at Major events by un-necessary added handicap yardage?

Are you afraid he is going to win and take your money or Trophy?

I am a Handicap Shooter, I absolutely Love Handicap Shooting and I encourage every new shooter to enter as many handicap events as he can. I want the targets to be set like they were in the 70s. I use the 70s as this was the time when Trapshooting was at it's peak.

From What I see BIGDON started shooting in the 80s he never knew the targets that were thrown at that time and strict use of 1200 fps max speed shells.

I don't have the funds that BIGDON has to shoot handicap targets like I used to and retirement has really hurt me there and the young shooters that have families and wives that want some of their husbands time.

The target requirements should be lowered to the level back in the 70s rule book, I actually would like to see it lowered even more to 500 handicap targets
and 500 singles targets, and 300 Doubles targets to get a PERMANENT CARD.

I don't see PERMANENT CARD listed in the rule book anymore, When a new shooter joins the ATA he shoulkd recieve a TEMPORARY card like I got when I joined in 1968.

The 500 targets in Hdcp and Singles can be accomplished over a 2 year period and it would take a new family man shooter or Lady shooter 5 weekends in a 2 year period to get a permanent card and he can shoot w/o penalty.

This encourages competetion, encourages shooting Registered targets, and stops un-necessary penalty handicapping.

If a new shooter shoots like I did at my first Ohio State shoot entered on the 20 Yard line and earned 4 1/2 yards like I did, that is what it is all about.
I wish he or she could earn more yardage and trophies and monies like I did.

Targets should be set at 3 hole settings and 53 yard distance max, 50 yard min.

Shells should be 1200 fps max speed 1 1/8th oz max shot charge, of 7 1/2s max shot size.

Doing this alone saves the shell house on Inventory at Major Shoots and the ATA and clubs major money savings also,

I also encourage the clubs and ATA to offer the Gun Club, Top Gun, and Rio
and other shells at lower competetive prices. This helps the New Shooters and Retired Shooters like myself money savings options, and encourages more targets to be shot.

The 3 hole 44 degree angle breaks up the ties and lowers perfect scores and puts the integrity back into the GRAND SLAMS.

One other Rule change is Mandatory 50/30/20 Lewis Class Options and number of classes determined by number of shooters entered, and ABSOLUTELY NO HIGH GUN
LEWIS CLASS PAYOUTS.

I actually paid almost all of my entry fees from LEWIS CLASS payouts when I first started shooting.

This is what I want the new shooters to be able to do, this encourages participation.

This Grudge Match 2012 Shootout is and was my way to PROMOTE the ATA to Stand Up And Notice.

SHOOTERS PUT UP YOUR MONEY ON WHO YOU THINK WILL WIN THIS GRUDGE MATCH AND SEE AN EYE OPENING EXPIERENCE, I AM NOT PREDICTING A WINNER, NOR AM I SLAMMING BIGDON, I AM NOT AN ALL AMERICAN SHOOTER, BUT I AM AN AMERICAN SHOOTER ENCOURAGING NEW SHOOTERS TO BE ABLE TO SHOOT TARGETS AND ANGLES AND SHELLS
LIKE I SHOT IN THE 70S AND WIN THEIR FAIR SHARE OF MONIES AND TROPHIES.

The benefit of my suggestions to the ATA on targets and shells is more competetion, puts INTEGRITY back in the SPORT of TRAPSHOOTING.

Let's see if this GAMES SHOOTER can stand on his own against the ALL AMERICAN.

I am trying to get the Las Vegas Odds Makers Involved, I could use all the help anyone can give on this.

Steve Carmichael can you help getting this to the ODDS MAKERS in LAS VEGAS
possibly some Casino's or SPORTS ODDS MAKERS could come up with some betting ODDS.

I personally try not to SLAM any poster on this site. I have a lot of information from over 40 years of Registered Trapshooting, and I have owned numerous trapguns over the years, I always get the comment GARY WHAT GUN ARE YOU SHOOTING THIS WEEK ?

If you have any questions on any trapshooting topic give me a PM and I will try to answer it, or I know where I can get the answer you need.

By the way BIG DON I never won a shootoff Friday Night at the buddy shoot but I was in every shootoff.

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There were so many shooters Friday Night we were shooting 3 man protections so more shooter could shoot.

Buddy shooting is getting bigger and bigger every week here in the southeastern part of Ohio.

Sporting Clays shooting is getting bigger and bigger every weekend. More than 70 shooters are showing up and shooting more than 2 rounds of 50 targets.

Gary Bryant
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