well after 5 months of being in a california port, great wall ammo has finnally been delivered to a supplier in oklahoma. this supplier, which i will name in a later date, recieved 4 container boxes full of shot shell produced behind the great wall, "china" that is. we tested 5 flats of them out today, they shoot really nice, pattern great and their velocity didnt vary more than 5ft per second. the best thing about them is there price. wholesale price to joe public from this supplier is 27.50 a flat.