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So I started shooting as a one eyed shooter and everyone keeps telling me I need to shoot with two eyes.

I’m going to take the advice and give it a go. Does anyone have any tips for the conversation to a two eyed shooter?

I have shot a few hundred targets so far and have limited success. The misses I could t tell you why I missed.

Thanks in advance
 

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Some can, some cannot. If you are looking for good advice, contact Phil Kiner. He has studied this topic extensively.
 

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If you don't have a cross dominance issues and are mounting to your dominant eye then two eye is the way to go as you will pick up the target faster and get a better sight picture. Stick with it. I wasted a lot of ammo switching back to one eye because my ego was hurt when my scores dropped when I went to two eyes. But eventually I got use to it and scored went up above where I was with one eye. I personally like what I see when the target breaks with two eyes. With one eye the break was a dark haze and I did not enjoy it as much as when I hit it with two eyes open (what I see anyway), that was what kept me sticking to two eyes. You don't walk around with one eye close so why shoot with one eye unless you have to based on eye dominance or eye issue. My wife has to shoot one eye because her left eye is slightly damaged and interferes with target acquisition when both eyes are open.
 

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Like you I shot one eyed since my dad showed me how to shoot everything. Many years ago after taking a Frank Hoppe clinic. Frank explained that it would be beneficial to change. So I did. My scores tanked so awhile. But now it seems natural to shoot that way. My advise. Patience. And prepare to be frustrated for awhile. But of course your the one who has to be satisfied. Good luck!
 

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An interesting story that developed when I took the Harlan Campbell course a couple years ago.....

An older Gent was part of that class, and he'd been struggling with shooting the other clay sports, and wanted to give Trap a try, and this course was a first-class way to begin.

He'd been shooting with his off eye closed for years. He said he was right-handed, shot right-handed, and left eye dominant.
We were chatting between shooting, and he asked me how I was able to shoot with both eyes open. I said I don’t think about it, and asked, "how many times have you missed the doorbell when you reached out to ring it?" ....never, he said. "Did you close one eye to do it?" He shook his head, "no". I said that happened because you were looking at the button until you touched it, and not at your finger. "That makes a lot of sense, and I never thought of it that way", he said. I told him that clay target is your doorbell, and to focus on delivering that payload to ring it. Don’t look at your finger.

Okay.....That wasn't science and had no proven record of success, but it was just one of those random things that come up in casual conversation and seemed to fit the situation, and make a point.
He kept at it and began breaking better scores right away during that two day course. Actually, I was amazed that it worked to his benefit so quickly.
Everyone is different, and that mental image, and his characteristics, made it all come together well.

It was an interesting story that I still often think about.
 

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good luck with the transition, I shot my first 4 years two eyed shooting, my shooting was very streaky, but my averages were low, lows 90s. I shot my first registered event one eyed back in September and ran my best scores. Still working on it but on eyed shooting works for me and my scores have been much better since I've made the move to one eye
 

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Here is my experience for what it's worth. I began shooting with one eye because I didn't know any different. After several years of one-eyed shooting and winning a few things as well as running my first 100 I decided I would switch to two eyes because I was starting to shoot more double trap as well as shooting skeet and sporting clays and believed it would help in acquiring the second target as well as picking up hard crossing targets etc. in the other disciplines. I didn't find it incredibly difficult to switch but my scores took a while to come back. My experience was that I had a hard time figuring out why I was missing the targets or why I was hitting the targets. That was back in 1996. Now I don't know how I shot with one eye! I have been known to get in a slump and experiment with one eye to see if I can determine why I'm missing targets and when I do, I don't know how I did it as long as I did! Now I can't shoot a rifle, pistol or even a bow with one eye.
After all that, I suggest that: You can't just shoot a couple rounds to know if it will work. I've been told that any time you change anything about how you shoot (New gun, adjust gun, change shells, change from one eye to two, etc.) you have to give it a fair chance to work. That may be 100 targets or 1000 but if you give up too soon you'll never know.
 

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Here is my experience for what it's worth. I began shooting with one eye because I didn't know any different. After several years of one-eyed shooting and winning a few things as well as running my first 100 I decided I would switch to two eyes because I was starting to shoot more double trap as well as shooting skeet and sporting clays and believed it would help in acquiring the second target as well as picking up hard crossing targets etc. in the other disciplines. I didn't find it incredibly difficult to switch but my scores took a while to come back. My experience was that I had a hard time figuring out why I was missing the targets or why I was hitting the targets. That was back in 1996. Now I don't know how I shot with one eye! I have been known to get in a slump and experiment with one eye to see if I can determine why I'm missing targets and when I do, I don't know how I did it as long as I did! Now I can't shoot a rifle, pistol or even a bow with one eye.
After all that, I suggest that: You can't just shoot a couple rounds to know if it will work. I've been told that any time you change anything about how you shoot (New gun, adjust gun, change shells, change from one eye to two, etc.) you have to give it a fair chance to work. That may be 100 targets or 1000 but if you give up too soon you'll never know.
How many hundreds have you broke since you made the move to two-eyed?
 

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So I started shooting as a one eyed shooter and everyone keeps telling me I need to shoot with two eyes.

I’m going to take the advice and give it a go. Does anyone have any tips for the conversation to a two eyed shooter?

I have shot a few hundred targets so far and have limited success. The misses I could t tell you why I missed.

Thanks in advance
Ok so you've got advice to switch to shooting two eyes.

I've heard this countless times across the country with the local club experts that have never achieved success telling the new people all the "how to's" to be any good.

You don't need to shoot both eyes open. It definitely isn't a requirement to be successful in trapshooting. If you can shoot two eyes, great. If for some reason you can't, don't concern yourself as your giving up very little in achieving success.

Take the advice for what it's worth but atleast I have my Grand Slam and have been a one eyed shooter all my ATA career.
 

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So I started shooting as a one eyed shooter and everyone keeps telling me I need to shoot with two eyes.

I’m going to take the advice and give it a go. Does anyone have any tips for the conversation to a two eyed shooter?

I have shot a few hundred targets so far and have limited success. The misses I could t tell you why I missed.

Thanks in advance
GolfGuy,
I’ll bet you use two eyes when hitting a golf ball off the tee. Why, because you can see the ball (target) better. Same with a flying clay target.
I posted a “Cure for shooting with One Eye Closed” yesterday on the “Eye Doctor Appointment/ One Eye Shooter” post. Give it a read.
This has worked for several shooters I know. The only ones that it did not work for were mentally defeated before actually doing it.
For the cost of three or four boxes of shells you can purchase all the equipment necessary and correct your problem. Once you make the conversion you won’t look back.
 

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My odessy with two eyed vision began long before I started to shoot clay targets. My then 6 year old that had a history of tripping over any and everything was found to because of an astigmatism be close to legally blind with both eyes open. That despite one eye testing at 20/20. The best explanation any eye specialist had or has had for this is some peoples brain just try to make the bad eye work and because of this the eye that isn't right becomes the master eye. The dominant eye or the one with the best vision may not be someones master eye.

I had listened to the "two eyes is the only way blowhards,". To the point of fully blacking out the lense over my left eye, so I could train it to stay open. When that eye took mastery over my vision in the middle of a trap during a registered shoot. I went blind or at least all I could perceive with my eyes was the black lense! That despite my mostly dominant eye being open and not obstructed in anyway.

I am a one eyed shooter. I have proven that I am a one eyed shooter, at least to myself. I tried what the blow hards say is the only way! And crashed and burned trying to follow the advice of the blow hards!!!!!!

The simplest way I can and this is from having tried just about every gimic known to trapshooters, to say try first. Is put a thin raised piece on the off eye side of your rib about 6 to 8 inches long at the muzzle of your shotgun. Then go shoot with both eyes open. For myself this was my first warning of the coming crash and burn because my master eye was seeing all of this sight blinder. If you can shoot a 25 without ever knowing the piece is there you are on way to two eyed shooting. If you see this piece even once in 25 you have experienced a master eye issue not a dominance issue! That to me is the warning of the impending crash and burn. If it happens more than once in a 25 stay with one eyed shooting even embrace one eyed shooting and be happy. Happy after all is a key ingredient to any real success.

Just know that the blow hards will argue very loudly against this advice. But that is because to a blow hard louder wins.

Al
 

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How many hundreds have you broke since you made the move to two-eyed?
I only shoot about 1500 ATA targets a year now. A far cry from the number I would like to.
5 100's and a few 99s and carry a 97.5 average after getting back in after a 5 year hiatus from ATA. Also won a high gun in Skeet league at my home club and haven't finished out of the top 10 in Trap, Skeet and 5 stand.
 

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The only absolute in trap shooting is not to shoot towards the parking lot; shoot towards the trap house.

If you can shoot two eyes and shoot A or above, so be it. If you can't, try shooting one eye.

B, C & D classes are full of guys who are there solely because they are trying to shoot two eyes when they should be shooting one and guys trying to use a pull trigger when they should be shooting a release because they have trigger freeze. Those are the two biggest average killers in trapshooting. Don't be one of those guys.
 

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A very interesting and timely topic. Here’s my scenario. I’m a right handed shooter who is left eye dominate. I presently shoot with one eye closed, however I’m thinking about making the switch to shooting with both eyes open.

In order to solve the left eye domination issue, one of the suggestions was to purchase the “magic dot”. A cost saving alternative to the dot was to place a small piece of scotch tape on your glasses. On the surface, that makes sense, but idea of “magic this and magic that” in my opinion is all hype. In my opinion, what does work is keeping my head in the game, and solid mechanics.

I’ve been shooting using one eye for many years. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. I wonder sometimes is it possible to “teach an old dog, new tricks?”

Dave
 

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A very interesting and timely topic. Here’s my scenario. I’m a right handed shooter who is left eye dominate. I presently shoot with one eye closed, however I’m thinking about making the switch to shooting with both eyes open.

In order to solve the left eye domination issue, one of the suggestions was to purchase the “magic dot”. A cost saving alternative to the dot was to place a small piece of scotch tape on your glasses. On the surface, that makes sense, but idea of “magic this and magic that” in my opinion is all hype. In my opinion, what does work is keeping my head in the game, and solid mechanics.

I’ve been shooting using one eye for many years. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. I wonder sometimes is it possible to “teach an old dog, new tricks?”

Dave
YES! I did, as well as many other old farts like me.
 

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My advice to you is if you really want to shoot with both eyes open then give it some time and don’t give up after 10 targets like most people do. I don’t know why anyone would want to shoot with one eye. If your shooting with your dominant eye and your gun fits you and your not AIMING then your eyes will pull the trigger for you.
 
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