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Found my old note book of Non rule so called "Rules" --Revisited

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I was going through my stuff and found a note book I used to keep of so called '"RULES" that I have heard people try to push over the years. I used to write these down and some are some are really laughable . Just about ALL are what somebody "over heard" in gun club porch talk. Usually these are presented by people who never read an ATA rule book in their freakin LIFE !! Here are a few examples . -------- You can't shoot a gun with an exposed hammer> You can't shoot a gun with a Poly Choke on it > You can't shoot a gun with a ported choke> You can't shoot a gun with a sling attached> You can't shoot a gun with a barrel shorter than 26 in. > You can't shoot with a stock that has a rifle style pistol grip> You can't shoot in sandals > You can't shoot bare foot> You can't shoot in Camo clothing > You MUST turn to the right leaving station 5> You can't load your gun UNTIL the shooter to your left has fired> You can't hold a registered shoot unless you have AT LEAST 2 trap fields > You can't shoot a gun smaller than 20 Ga. in a registered event> You can't shoot in an ATA event unless you are at least 12 years old ( that one may be some state law in some lib tard state about handling a gun but,there is no "Age Limit" in the ATA rule book). > In doubles you MUST shoot the going away bird FIRST> All trap houses MUST be painted Green> Now that clubs have voice releases you CAN"T shoot hand pulled targets anymore> You will not be allowed to shoot at the Grand unless you have in 1,000 targets ( you may be penalized in class or yardage but you can still go shoot) . > You can't hold a state shoot and have it in another state.> Maybe my favorite is the one where somebody read a rule book a quarter century ago that has a rule about 3 DRAM loads in it and doesn't know the ATA ditched that years ago and went to a shell VELOCITY rule ( I actually had some old guy once try to tell me I was shooting ILLEGAL shells because they said 1 oz. 3-1/4 dram and 1290 FPS on them !!!) These are all actual things i have heard some people actually try to push as ATA RULES ! When I would hand them the rule book ( which I always carry ) and tell them to SHOW it to me most just walk away. A couple have tried to BS me with "well it may not actually SAY that BUT"-- I stop them and say " there is no BUT ! It is either a rule or somebody made it up ! 😐
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While not as lengthy, the supposed duties and powers of the "squad leader" some shooters claim are pretty silly as well. Here is a hint - the only duty of the squad leader is to take the score sheet to the next subevent, which really just makes the squad leader a score sheet caddy. The only power is to ask to see targets before the subevent begins. Look it up if you don't believe me.
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While not an ATA rule for those that help out in some of the various youth shooting programs some of those do actually have a turn to the right on post 5 rule. Other differences some have from ATA are you can’t rest the barrel on your toe/foot/shoe, can’t close action until your turn, and can’t use reloads. None are ATA but we have had issues with ATA shooters helping out and then arguing ā€˜those aren’t rules’ but in some youth organizations they actually are.
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I was going through my stuff and found a note book I used to keep of so called '"RULES" that I have heard people try to push over the years. I used to write these down and some are some are really laughable . Just about ALL are what somebody "over heard" in gun club porch talk. Usually these are presented by people who never read an ATA rule book in their freakin LIFE !! Here are a few examples .
You can't shoot a gun with an exposed hammer>
You can't shoot a gun with a Poly Choke on it >
You can't shoot a gun with a ported choke>
You can't shoot a gun with a sling attached>
You can't shoot a gun with a barrel shorter than 26 in. >
You can't shoot with a stock that has a rifle style pistol grip>
You can't shoot in sandals >
You can't shoot bare foot>
You can't shoot in Camo clothing >
You MUST turn to the right leaving station 5>
You can't load your gun UNTIL the shooter to your left has fired>
You can't hold a registered shoot unless you have AT LEAST 2 trap fields >
You can't shoot a gun smaller than 20 Ga. in a registered event>
You can't shoot in an ATA event unless you are at least 12 years old ( that one may be some state law in some lib tard state about handling a gun but,there is no "Age Limit" in the ATA rule book). >
In doubles you MUST shoot the going away bird FIRST>
All trap houses MUST be painted Green>
Now that clubs have voice releases you CAN"T shoot hand pulled targets anymore>
You will not be allowed to shoot at the Grand unless you have in 1,000 targets ( you may be penalized in class or yardage but you can still go shoot) . >
You can't hold a state shoot and have it in another state.>
Maybe my favorite is the one where somebody read a rule book a quarter century ago that has a rule about 3 DRAM loads in it and doesn't know the ATA ditched that years ago and went to a shell VELOCITY rule ( I actually had some old guy once try to tell me I was shooting ILLEGAL shells because they said 1 oz. 3-1/4 dram and 1290 FPS on them !!!)

These are all actual things i have heard some people actually try to push as ATA RULES ! When I would hand them the rule book ( which I always carry ) and tell them to SHOW it to me most just walk away. A couple have tried to BS me with "well it may not actually SAY that BUT"-- I stop them and say " there is no BUT ! It is either a rule or somebody made it up ! 😐
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While not an ATA rule for those that help out in some of the various youth shooting programs some of those do actually have a turn to the right on post 5 rule. Other differences some have from ATA are you can’t rest the barrel on your toe/foot/shoe, can’t close action until your turn, and can’t use reloads. None are ATA but we have had issues with ATA shooters helping out and then arguing ā€˜those aren’t rules’ but in some youth organizations they actually are.
There are several youth team "rules" that apply ONLY while shooting on those teams. While those teams can add some of their own RULES for the kids on that TEAM , those ARE NOT ATA rules and beyond those teams have no authority what so ever. I even saw one parent of a youth team member try and tell another kid ( not on or associated in any way with that team ) that he had to adhere to those team rules . His Dad told them to pound sand !
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Yeah, we’ve had that same issue. They are only in place for league sanctioned events. When the kids show up at the club during open shoots they aren’t enforced. At the start of the season we mention the difference so when they see the differences they know why. A lot are new shooters so we want to answer the why can they but we can’t question up front.
Just this Saturday , I dismounted my gun 3 times due to shooter following me mounting gun -on the 3rd go I asked the referee to turn off microphones, asked the young man if he intended to shoot my target for me & then informed him I would make sure he got a copy of the ATA rulebook
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I think Trap Shooting is perhaps the only sport where the majority of contestants have not even even READ the Rule Book. In the case of small shoots some people running the shoots may not have even read them !
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