I had two apex loaders -- 12 and 20 purchased new -- both were taken care of and well maintained -- started having primer feed problems with both and finally got tired of "PAYING" for parts to fix them -- after many calls to their Tech support with nothing fixed sold both of them cheap -- they will only send parts that they "DEEM" as a failed part not as "normal wear" -- the problem I had with them was poor tech. design in the primed feed area -- the layout of loaders and the features on the loaders were good ideas -- but not good mech. design
I agree with DMM, if you are only going to load 100-200/month, snap it up. Like most new products they have teething problems and some were good and a lot were lemons. It made good shells, and was fast, to the point of primer feed glitches and dirt jamming the activation rods. MEC 9000g would be more fun, or a grabber. See E Bay.
And I will stand by what I said about Apex loaders -- I have loaded over 150,000 shells in my shooting time -- started out with single stage Mec's -- 650 Mec's -- 9000G Mecs -- Apex gave me more trouble than all the others combined
I had a Apex loader and was NOTHING BUT TROUBLE!! Primer parts 3 times and finaly sent the whole loader back to them for a rebuild. When I got it back I sold it for $125.00 and never looked back. I know they discontinued making them sometime back and was told by there service department when the supply of parts are gone thats it.
What we also need is "BUYER BEWARE" It is like Consumers report. We tested the product and now we are giving a review. I don't think you would like it if you bought something and found out latter that it was a bad deal when some of the posters here could of warned you. Shootem you had your say and so did I.
There are 2 ways to look at bad mouthing a product on here for sale. If you are the one selling it you wouldn't want people bad mouthing it. If your the one laying down your good hard earned money on something you surely would want to know if your waisting your cash. Thats what is good about forums. It some what lets people speak there mind. I always search things out before purchasing. If you read on here enough. You will know what is a good buy or what isn't.
I have used an Apex 3.1 and loaded a bunch of 12 ga shells with it...oh, maybe 7-10K shells....worked fine. I agree that the primer feed is its weakness, but also agree that primer feed is a weakness in all reloaders.
3.1 made darn fine looking shells....now I have a spolar with hydro..serial # 420...now that is a fine reloader...and the primer feed is still its weakest feature.
Is this still for sale? I have one and have absolutely loved it from the first day. A few small problems but I have never had anything that I couldn't fix. Here is the "keeper" for this loader: I have loaded over 300,000 shells and I will tell you this loader will load faster than any other loader out there. Of course I don't consider a box of shells loaded until it is actually in the box and this is the only loader that allows me to stack the shells in the boxer as I load. Casually a box every 3.5 minutes. Yes it takes keeping it clean but it only takes soap and water to clean. Never use solvents as the disolve some of the plastic parts. My only complaint is that it doesn't hold enough shot powder or primers for as fast as the loader is. You boys that have problems with this loader are probably just a little short on IQ points and long in "forcing" things. By the way this loader sat next to a Spolar and a hydraulic Ponsness, with shell feed, in a little competition with a couple fellow shooters that liked to brag about how fast they could load shells. These two guys used to tell me how they would load and then take the bucket of shells and sit and watch TV while they boxed them. When we had the little 20 box competition I joined them on the couch completely finished and watched them finish boxing the last 10 or twelve boxes. Mine were already boxed and packed in my shooting bags. They bought the beer and pizza and I decided to keep my little loader that could!!!
Look boys, I only stated the problems that I encountered with the unit I had and that several others had problems also. Not once did I ever mention the IQ level of any person or indicate that somebody must have a low IQ to give a bad report. So my closing words for you people that like to insult is "When you go home tonight I hope your MOTHER comes out from under the porch and bites you"