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I have loaded a few hundred rounds so far with High Gun powder. I love the powder, and now prefer this powder over the same Clays powder, you have enjoyed loading for years and years. I may not be going back to Clays powder myself??? I do use a standard Mec charge bar. I use newer rubber and brass washers and have zero powder migration. Because of the smaller nature of the powder itself. My powder drops are even more consistent than they were loading with Clays powder. I have been loading some 1 1/8 oz. loads at appox. 1,235 fps for my longest shots only at sporting clays. Shots that are beyond 50 yards. I love these loads. I have no idea if your charge bar will leak with this powder or not??? But I can tell you, that if you use a factory Mec bar with new rubber and brass, you'll be fine. Good Luck to Ya. break em all Jeff

 

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For the tested load I am trying to match, The tested load shows dropping 18.1 grains of HG powder in a STS hull with 1 1/8 oz load of lead shot. Will yield pressures at a average of 9120 psi with a average speed of 1,232 fps. I am dropping 18.2 grains of powder with a #20 Mec bushing. Oops, almost forgot to tell you to use CB-4100 wads and cheddite primers. Good Luck to Ya.

PS--I found the Lightning wads a big PITA to load. So I will be switching over to the figure 8 wads next time I reload any 12 ga. shells again. I would normally load the AA wads, But they max out at 1,200 fps. break em all Jeff

 

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The fact is, this is the first I've heard of these plastic base wads separating in AA hulls, and getting stuck in barrels.

Its old news. The fact remains that the Win. AAHS hulls are made the same way every other company in the world makes hulls today. With the exception of injection molded hulls that the Remington factory still uses. Its a one piece hull.

If your reloading with a Mec reloader??? You will never run into this issue. As all Mec reloaders install the primers with a tube that pushes the primer into the hull from the inside. Which makes it impossible for the base wad to be raised upward when the primer is installed into the hull. Now if you reload with a Spolar, or another brand of reloader that the machine holds onto the hull from the outside of the hull. Then uses a ram from the bottom to push the primer into the hull from the bottom. Then its possible to get a raised base wad. Since this machine does not hold the basewad in place, as the primer is installed!!! This can happen more often. As you try to reload the same hull 8-10 times. Now the Federal economy hulls are made the same way as the Win. AAHS hulls. All of the European shells are made this way. If you reload with a Mec reloader you can reload any hull without worry!!! I just saw a poster here trying to sell his Win. AAHS hulls for 6 cents a piece. He could not get buyers at this price. So he lowered his price to 5 cents each. They started to sell. But during the same week. I saw folks here pay 20 cents each for Rem. STS hulls. So now ask yourself which hull do you want to reload??? Now ask yourself which reloader you want buy??? You have solved your dilemma!!! Some folks are just funny. they will pay 5 grand for a reloader, so they have to pay 4 times more for the hulls. To save money so they can shoot their 2 grand browning shotgun. All to be able to reload at a fast rate of speed!!! Its impossible to reload a better shell, than the Mec. Sizemaster reloader produce. All you can do is reload the same quality of shell at a faster rate of speed. So just like a race car, its the need for speed!!!! break em all jeff

 

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Any suggestions on wads that will work better in these hulls would be appreciated.

Sorry to say, that I doubt that HG powder is going to work well in your Federal Gold Metal hulls. Way to much volume on those hulls, for such a dense powder??? I assume your getting really dished crimps???
I have been using HG powder with a one oz. lightning wad for a 1 1/8 oz. load in my Remington hulls. I have not tried, but I am quite sure I can use a 1 1/8 oz. wad with 1 1/8 oz. of shot in my Newer Win. AAHS hulls.
So if your loading a one oz. load in your older CF Win. AA hulls. I suggest you try a 7/8 oz. wad. This should correct your stack height issues. As long as you use data for the same wad type your OK. So use reloading data for a one wad Win. AA wad, and just use a 7/8 oz. Win. AA clone wad. Do Not use a Remington wad, with Win. AA reloading data. You might want to stock up on some Win. AAHS hulls right now at your local Walmart. I saw them priced at Rollback prices right now for like $10.88 a box right now!!! Good Luck to Ya and your reloading. break em all Jeff

 

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Thanks for the input.

You can try a smaller wad in your Gold Metal hulls as well??? Not sure how well that will work for you. But HG powder should work great in your AAHS hulls. With the proper size wad as well. I don't see a 7/8 oz. wad listed from CB for Federals, or for the Imports!!!
We had a poster here post a load he tested with a 1 1/8 oz. figure 8 wad with a l 1/8 payload in a Rem STS hull. He said he did not get dished crimps. If memory serves he was loading just over 18 grains of HG powder.
Have you tried backing off the wad pressure, and backing off on your final crimp on your Win. CF reloads yet??? You don't need any wad pressure at all, and all you need is a slight lip on your final crimps. You don't need a deep crimp to get good loads. If after both changes on your reloader, your still getting dished crimps that are too deep. You'll have to change wads is all. Good Luck to Ya. break em all Jeff

 

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i load high gun but i have to use a 7/8 oz wade to load a 1 oz load in AA hulls

You shouldn't have to do that, if your press is adjusted correctly!!!! Unless your reloading the older AACF 12 ga. hulls??? break em all Jeff

 

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I am loading what Hodgdon calls (between 1,200 and 1,255 fps loads) a 1,225 fps load with 1 1/8 oz of shot. I am loading 18.2-18.3 grains with a figure 8 wad in a STS hull, and Cheddite primer. I find this load very comfortable to shoot. This load will destroy a sporting clay target at 70 yards and beyond.
I shoot them out of my 391 auto though. Its very possible your load might be faster than you think. If you find it a bit snappy compared to a factory load!!! Have you checked any loads listed in the tested reloaded shells, to see check to see how fast your load really might be. If you can find the same exact tested load that is??? I too find some of Hodgdon's loads to be a bit harsh. Then I might find a tested load to find out, its really 50 fps faster than Hodgdon's published data says it is.
I have never loaded any WSH powder, so I am not the person to ask about how much they recoil. Good Luck to Ya. break em al Jeff