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Some time ago several folks were discussing the older industry reps and I came across these today. I thought you might enjoy them.

Dick Baldwin and Bob Andrews after their shoot-off for Ind. Rep. Dbls. Champ.

Vic Reinders, Lee Braun and Bob Andrews on the occasion on Mr. Reinders 100,000 target.

Three of Remington's best. All four ATA HOF'ers.

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I remember Dick winning the doubles that year. Quite sure he had a 99. We flew home from the Grand with him. He was a very good doubles shot. Nice pics! Thanks.
 

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They both had 99's and Bob won the shoot-off with 20 straight according to my records.

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I was a friend of Vic Reinders and his 31 was a TC grade. It had a 28 inch barrel, full choke. I was the first person he allowed to place a gauge down the barrel, it was 45 thousands choke, it also had a bulge in the barrel from a stuck wad. When I told Vic about the bulge in the barrel he said "it doesn't affect the way it shoots". In later years he broke a large piece off the forend. One day at the Grand in Ohio back in the 1980's, I told Vic that I met a man selling a new in the box 31TC forend for $60.00. I said he told me to tell you he would sell it to you for $20.00. Vic said why do I need a new forend? I said Vic, your forend is broken, a big piece is out of it. He said, " it doesn't affect the way it shoots". Vic purchased that 31TC at the MIlwaukee gun club for $50.00. In later years Vic had a new landlord where he rented. She asked him what are all these cans in the basement? Vic said cans of gun powder(PB), Vic was as good as gone. Before he moved he asked me to come over. He game me every Sportsman review magazine he had, along with every Trap & Field magazine. He had numerous brand new leather shooting bags and new shooting vest that he won over the years too. I asked Vic why he didn't use one of the new bags and vest, instead of using and wearing his old stuff. His bag had holes in it. Vic said his clothes felt good to shoot in, and his bag is not worn out yet. People who knew Vic can understand that's just the way he was.
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I went to the Wisconsin State shoot one year and I was squadded with Vic he was shooting his 31TC and I was shooting my Model 12 did not shoot too bad , I lubed the model 12 w/oil from the dipstick from my car to make it smoother operaring it also had a release trigger.

After we shot we had lunch together, he was a real gentleman and a great shooter.





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I'd love to see more threads like this on trapshooters.com. Takes us back to a more simple and honest time, if only briefly.

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Gary:
One time I was shooting with Vic and a young shooter in his 20's was also on the squad. Everything was going fine until this shooter starts getting into an argument on the line with the trap boy over a rule. Shooting stops, Vic walks over to him and tells him what the rule actually is, and said to him that the trap boy was correct. The young shooter sarcastically ask Vic, who the hell are you that you know all the Rules? Vic said "I'm Vic Reinders, and I WROTE THE DAM RULE BOOK"!!! The guy says, oh, and put his head down and we all resumed shooting.
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Is it just me or does anyone else notice that the shooters in the 1960s dressed well ........... more classy than today?
 

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He used the rem 31 TC for doubles too. Years ago a well known AA27AA shooter said to Vic" as good of a career that you have had, just imagine how much better it would have been if you used an over and under for doubles". Vic went crazy over that statement. What Vic use to do not to short shuck the 31 on doubles was to first place a dummy shell in the magazine tube, than a regular shell, and then one in the chamber. Vic felt that that dummy shell kept everything better in line and helped him not to short shuck. People who saw Vic shoot doubles sometimes saw Vic breaking his second doubles target a foot off the ground.
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Steve, thanks for sharing the stories. It does seem like trap was simplier and more "fun" at one time.
 

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Just as some background, Baldwin's doubles average that year (1967) was 94% and change. In that era, that put you in pretty elite company. Reinders that same year finished with a 93% average.
 
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