If you already have a Zoli and like it, I would go with a Zoli Z-Trap combo. And if you don't like the stock, you could probably get one made to fit you.

 

I might go that way. Norber has made me a Zoli fan for life. I will never part with my Zoli.

 

I live in AZ and will be at the Autumn Grand in Tucson next month.

I would wait until you can test fire a few brands at this shoot next month. Meanwhile, see if you can shoot a round or two with some Krieghoffs, Kolars, Perazzi's around your neck of the woods. I'm sure if you buy the owner of one of these firearms a nice clubhouse lunch or his favorite drink. He would be very happy to tell you why he loves his firearm, and let you try it. Since you've told the owner your looking for a new Trap shotgun to buy, and your interested in his. Do keep in mind the gun will need to be serviced once in a while. So having a dealer that can repair them close to you is a plus, but not always needed. You have a month to look around at all your local clubs. More than enough time to look. Before you head out to this shoot and try another brand or two. After 3 weeks of looking, I expect you have narrowed down your choices to a couple of guns. Look for these used guns on-line. Get prices for these guns, contact the seller if need be ask questions for best deals. Then tell the dealer your going to think about it, before you buy. Then head out to the shoot to look for better deals, and any another shotguns you have not tried beforehand. Once your satisfied you have handled every gun your interested in, and checked prices at this shoot and on-line, and shot a few makes. You'll know what shotgun to buy. Buying the perfect shotgun, is all part of your Trap shooting Journey. Just like buying your SC shotgun was. Good Luck to Ya. don't forget to break em all Jeff

 

If I had a $ 10,000.00 budget I would buy a $ 3,500.00 Browning 825 and $ 6500.00 worth of shot shells .

 

It's funny, you mentioned a Browning. I called Guns Unlimited today to ask about their 725/825 options.

One of the gentlemen was nice enough to send me a few pictures of both the walnut and maple versions. His recommendation was to pick up a 725 combo with all the options, as it would still come in under the cost of 825 Max Trap. He recommended the 32" double and the 34" unsingle-barrel set. I've never considered a maple stock before, but dang, the one he picked for me had a flame pattern that would make a Gibson flametop Les Paul blush.

 

Like Tim said. If you like Zoli they’re a great gun for the money.

 

If you like Zoli

Would you spend 10 grand on shotgun that you don't like the grip on???

I noticed Tim mentioned this as well. Since our OP did not bring up Zoli's. Which I thought of as well. I assumed he was not interested in buying another one? But we all know what happens when we Assume Something don't we!!! LOL

Which is why I did not include Zoli's on my post above. I would not recommend a DT-11 to anyone today either. For other reasons, that we don't need to discuss here.

Too Bad the OP does not mention if he wants a combo shotgun, or just a Un-single shotgun. Which really changes things up, big time with costs today. Since he does shoot all 3 games, he might want a combo shotgun??? Which is why I suggested to our OP, to check out shotguns for the next 3 weeks around his local clubs. To get a better idea on what shotguns he might want. Before he heads to a larger shoot to look around. By checking costs on the internet, just before he leaves. He'll know what prices are good, and what prices are high. On guns he has already checked out. So he is more informed buyer. break em all Jeff

 

My vote would be Kraighoff kx-6.I wish I had done this myself,sure would have saved some money.Around here they hold their value a little better than most.

 

Only problem is it’s a single shot. I do have though and love it!!

 

Doubles with a KX-6 ? I would test as many guns as I could before I buy. High rib guns aren't for everybody, so they say? Never shot a Zoli so no opinion. Buy whatever you like most.

 

Talk to Norbert re stock. Earlier Z guns had beefier stocks and were thicker through the grip and palm swell. Apparently most thought them too beefy and Zoli reduced them. Maybe some earlier stocks still available?

 

That's a good idea. I just had the Zoli serviced for the first time. Norbert was great to talk with, and worked wonders on my gun. The trigger, action, everything is like new.

I have considered picking up a TSK stock. I have a TSK glove grip on a Rizzini, and that thing literally fits like a glove. I just hate the idea of messing with the Zoli as it's so sweet.

 

Talk to Norbert re stock. Earlier Z guns had beefier stocks and were thicker through the grip and palm swell. Apparently most thought them too beefy and Zoli reduced them. Maybe some earlier stocks still available?

 

@CactusJack
From your post it does not appear you are time crunched to make this purchase so I suggest you attend some of the larger shoots and "test drive" guns as "Pull & Mark" suggested. It's really surprising how guns that are the same basic dimensions and weights can handle so differently. Seitz, Perazzi, and Krieghoff are top notch firearms that are well made and hold their value.

Good luck on your search
Gavin

Mike Gooch at the Indiana Gun Club usually has a good variety of used trap guns.

Indiana Gun Club | Inventory

indianagunclub.org

If you are looking for a Perazzi I would go with Giacomo Sporting.

Pre-Owned Perazzi Shotguns

Perazzi Sales and Service for over 40 years. New and pre-owned parts. Full range of Perazzi gunsmithing services.

giacomosportingusa.com

 

Thanks for the advice and the links. I've spent some time looking at the Indiana Gun Club, assessing prices as Pull & Mark suggested. I hadn't come across Giacomo yet, and will definitely check them out. I haven't been to the Autumn Grand before, but I've heard it's a big shoot, and I'm optimistic I'll be able to get my hands on some good guns.

 

I'd buy a Caesar Guerini and watch @Tron's head explode

 

Matt just won his 5th Doubles Championship, $10k should buy you a Browning.

 

I'd get a used Perazzi MX10/2000 combo with an adjustable rib on the top single (they point better) and the O/U, either 34/32 or 35/34.

 

very good advice here.....especially with the low prices that these used guns are bringing these days.

 

K-80 combo.

 

K80

 

Used perazzi

 

MX-10 combo used or MX -15 with an o/u barrel add on.

 

5 - tt-15 combo's ?

 

@WadHopper should help this thread out

 

I would buy a Browning CXT and spend the rest on shooting expenses !

 

Silver Seitz if you want a single barrel. Kolar Max Trap T/A if you want a combo.
Obviously preowned.

 

Started shooting trap five years ago myself and my advice is as follows. Try several brands (Krieghoff, Blaser, Perazzi) and don’t jump too quick with the whole 10k budget. If your experience is anything like mine you will find that the more you shoot and the more you learn what you want in a gun will change as you go. But the most important thing first is that you understand proper gun fit. Find someone at the Autumn Grand and have them help you get a setup that fits you correctly and understand what it takes for a gun to fit you properly so that you can apply that to the different guns you try to find what you like.

 

The brands mentioned before are all options but it seems for that money we all mostly agree that a combo will become your go to for many things and get the most use.

 

After having a Beretta 687 combo (top single) for nearly 20 years I almost pulled the trigger on a browning 825 trap last week but got cold feet at the last minute……I really want to look at some used Perazzi first.
I had a DT11 for about a year and that high rib just wasn’t for me…..I’ve got all winter to decide.
The 825 trap I was considering had no comb of adj butt, nor did it have double release….so I was easily looking at adding 1500-1600on top of the asking price. I wasn’t sure I’d be happy shooting all events with the O/U…..so like the OP, still considering options

 

Since our OP did not bring up Zoli's.

The OP did indeed bring up Zoli:

I shoot a 32" Zoli XL Evo and enjoy most everything about the gun.

 

I remember something a great friend that had over 500,000 registered targets told me: “If you want a trap gun for shooting a lot of targets- get a Krieghoff or a Perazzi.” Some people might say it’s a little short sighted (we were talking about combo’s at the time- he also liked Seitz and Ljutic), but over the years- those are the 2 brands that the majority of trapshooting’s best have used (with Leo being a notable exception). Personally- my grail gun is a Perazzi MX-10 top single, I’ve had most of the other guns I’d like to have owned except that one. My sporting gun is a K-80- if the Perazzi didn’t tickle my fancy for a trap gun, I’d be looking at a K-80 Trap Special Top Single. I’d say stick with a 34” single barrel, but for O/U’s- don’t shy away from 30” barrels- a lot of people shoot them better for doubles, and I’m in that camp, as well.

If what you want is over your budget of $10K- stretch the budget a little. What you’ll spend on shells, target fees, hotels, etc. will far outweigh the cost of the gun shortly. Ask me how I know lol!

 

I shot an event this past weekend and saw several K80s on the back line. They are sweet. I could up the budget, but $10K is more than my first three cars were worth combined so I feel good where I’m at .

You bring up an interesting point on 30” vs 32” barrels. I listen to Ricky Marshall Jr on Trap Talk and was surprised to learn he shoots 30” barrels. He’s a big man. I had assumed 32” was the gold standard, but may look into 30’s. Are they becoming more common?

 

I'd keep the Zoli for doubles. It will be the best doubles gun you ever shot.