After 40 years in this sport, i have heard a lot, and to be very honest am sick and tired of the same complaints, all the problems pointed out by this guy and that hall of famer and some all american and some past all american blah blah blah. Come on guys where and what are the solutions. Here in Calif. the PITA has been thumbing there nose at the ATA for years. Who needs those high and mighty ATA exec. Oh u want to be an all american, so what, all they do is travel all over and pour money,into trap shooting just like the world poker tourments of which they have plenty, great for them, maybe someone needs to start a grass roots shooting organization like the PITA in the east, or have PITA shoots in the east, there in Colorado now. Maybe have the Cardinal Center, The MTA in Michigan take Penn and Indy and those mid west states tell the all mighty ATA to shove it and all the shooters from those areas shoot non registered targets at those venues. Hell guys you or we or all of us have to start somewhere.