Aren't they made by Miroku, the same company that made Browning for many years, or am I mistaken. At any rate it would be a big step up from what most parents buy for their first year shooters. And thanks for helping the kids.

 

No, these are the newly released (2-3 years ago) turkish made guns. I have seen multiple things about where they are made. Some say Akkar factory, some say Hhuglu, some say Chiappa in Italy. But Chiappa now supposedly owns the "Charles Daly" name, so thinking Italy may just be an import stop on the way out of Turkey.

 

For that kind of money there are used Citoris and 686s out there that would be exponentially smarter purchases.

Or buy some 1100s and Jack West stocks.

 

I can't find a used 686 or citori with any adjustability or that shoots high POI for anywhere near that $$. I can find a 28" field grade in decent used condition, but in a given year I need something I can recommend to the parents of 8-10 brand new shooters. The biggest dilemma with these small/young kids is getting a gun to fit them. Last couple years we have pushed the Winchester SXP Trap since they have a compact/youth version (13" LOP but still with 30" barrel and shoots 70/30). Just looking for a "non-pump" in something I can get parents to buy.

Kind of a funny anecdote to all this. I have a 10th grade boy on the team who started with us in 6th grade. His dad FOUGHT me and FOUGHT me on getting him a "real" trap gun. Couldn't understand what was wrong with his adult sized synthetic 870 express with weights screwed to the endcap... Kid has gotten better and better. between 7th and 8th grade they got him an immaculate 32" browning XT trap with adjustable butt and comb. He is now shooting High 90's in singles, and winning his class at most tournaments.

So the twist to the story is that last year his little sister started shooting with us as a 7th grader. Their parents keep commenting on how she has gotten so much better, SO much quicker than her brother did. I pointed out that they started her with a Beretta 391 Teknys Gold trap! AND, at the AIM nationals this summer upgraded her to a Fabarms Siren trap. lol Their dad is now one of my biggest parent advocates for the getting youth shooters an actual TRAP gun. LOL

 

I'm not personally familiar with the Charles Daly but I have a Mossberg Gold Reserve Super Sport. It features a similar price point, adjustable comb and butt plate. It has been reliable and served me well for 2 years. It does shoot relatively flat (50/50) though.

I do not necessarily think it would make a good loaner for youth though. Minimum length of pull is around 14" and it has a large grip with right handed palm swell. Those don't seem like like they would suit small stature beginners. The Charles Daly you referenced is probably similar size.

The SKB youth guns advertise a length of pull as low as 13" and would probably have a smaller grip as well.

 

Another post pointed at Tron.

 

last year I picked up a Charles Daly 202 field model in 28 gauge just because it felt good. it is made by Chiappa.
I will give you 1 word about buying one.....DONT !
trigger pull is rough & heavy. occasional FTF and some shells stick in the chamber.
removing the stock shows very crude finish/workmanship.

 

last year I picked up a Charles Daly 202 field model in 28 gauge just because it felt good. it is made by Chiappa.
I will give you 1 word about buying one.....DONT !
trigger pull is rough & heavy. occasional FTF and some shells stick in the chamber.
removing the stock shows very crude finish/workmanship.

Thanks for the first hand experience! That is what I was hoping to get. Well, not the actual experience you had, but the first hand part. Lol

 

If I were to purchase any Turk shotgun, it would probably an SKB.

 

what about a used 870 and add a byods at one . I have not used one but they look ok and you could be into it with some adjustability for probably less then $800, or just as an upgrade to an 870 they own . Or even a jack west on a alreadyoned 870 would be more palatable price wise
Give them a better option until they decide to stick with it then upgrade to something more suitable . I have seen cz all Americans for around $1200ish give or take as well .

 

Only an idiot would buy a Turkish gun. That tidbit was actually handed down to me from Mount Sinai.

 

I expected this as your primary comment, and understand it completely. Just in a specific situation with young new shooters and their parents.

 

I bought one about 6 months ago. Saw it in an email from one of the online stores. I could find any info on it other than the Charles Daly website. It was $920 delivered, for that price I thought I'd give It a try. First impressions were the wood was basic the finish was ok. It came with a nice padded case that fit the receiver and both barrels nicely. The hardware in the comb worked, but wasn't anything to brag about. The barrel adjustment screws needed a better design. It patterned nice. I was surprised the chokes supplied did a good job. The safety was pretty sloppy. The gun fit to me was ok. I shot about 80 rounds through it and the mounting system on the unsingle barrel fell apart. I went back in the club house and sold it to my buddy. He went through the gun and locktited everything and is doing well with it. I had bought one of the first tristar combos when they were released. My opinion is that the Charles Daly combo isn't near as good of a gun as the Tristar. My advice is keep your eyes open for a used browning or something of that sort. Hope that helps!

 

thanks, That does help.