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What is a card shooting shotgun barrel. How do they differer from a regular barrel. Just wondering.
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I don't know much about them except the card barrel has a very tight pattern Extra Full Choke. For many years the Winchester Model 97 with a long tapered choke was the gun to beat at card shoots.
 

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You have not seen a card shooting gun until you go to Snake rd Trapshoot in Ohio where there are $7,000 Stainless steel 870 recievers, aluminum stcks, 1 1/4 inch stainless steeel 40 inch bbls mw/scopes that will rip the center out of the card using 2 dram, 2 ounces of #10 or #12 shot, shells are Wagner 2-2-10

Guy won $750 and the shoot was not over yet, they shoot indoors, warm heat in winter, through a small window, off a counter sitting on a stool. at least 20 guns at a tme shoot cards.


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There was a thread on here a while ago where the OP questioned whether or not a gun like Gary described above should be legal in the same competition as the conventional guns used.
 

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A card shooting barrel gun is like described above, super tight choke. Card shooting is a game where you shoot a stationary card that has basically an (X) on it. Whoever gets closest to the (X) with a pellet wins. They shoot for turkeys, half and whole beefs, etc... Not much fun if you ask me. I gotta shoot something that moves. You can put 40 pellets in your card and some clown can put only one but his ends up on the (X) and he wins the turkey.LOL Some places do it different where the winner is the one with the most shot inside the closest circle, around the (X).

A few places in Indiana will only allow you to shoot "factory" guns, not the custom ones like Gary described.
 

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Shotgun Sports magazine ran an article on those guns years ago with pictures as described by longshot. Very heavy custom made barrels choked to 100 thousandths or more.
 

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I once read an article about this. If memory serves me right constriction was from .060 and higher. All I know is that the constrictions would be way to tight to shoot regular trap targets. Recently, someone had a 870 card barrel on Ebay and the bidding started at $500.00.
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Sounds a lot like still board shoots as we call them in Southeastern Indiana. Except at still board shoots barrel length is limited to 36" and I think .675 or .676 is the gauge you have to be able to insert into the choke. The shells in the past were always AA 7 and 1/2s but now they use about anything that cheap. You don't get to shoot with a rest or from a seated position either at the still board shoots I have been to. The cards we shoot at are basically a cross hair circle set up at about 27 to 30 yards. Closest pellet to the cross hair wins. Doesn't matter if your gun can tear the center out, one piece of shot dead center wins.
 

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I used to shoot "Turkey" shoots when I was a kid (yea a long time ago). Like stated above there are all different types, each shoot usually have their own rules on what you can shoot from the wild like described above to plain factory. Depending on the type of shoot there is a good bit of luck involved

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This a picture of one of the many winning card shooting guns used at one of my home clubs.

They shoot for money. 60/40 split. 60% to the shooter. The card has a dot in the center & must be shot out. Distance is 20yds. Average pot is $700+. I judge the cards & my decision is final. Danny
 

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I play golf and do card shoots mostly in the winter. Golf is 75% skill and 25% luck. Card shooting is 75% luck and 25% skill. Basic technical side of it is to try to make a rifle out of a shotgun. It will also satisfy the need to go to the casino and to me is a lot more fun. I was at the shooting range last year and overheard one of the trap shooters tell one of his buddies that there is no way it should take a box of shell to pattern a shotgun and I just thought buddy you don't know still card shotguns.
 

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You may remember two Decembers ago when a couple of members posted pictures purportedly of patterns they shot. In one case it was claimed that the gun-owner had not only bought the tightest shooting gun in the world, he sold it and then bought the new candidate for "tightest shooting gun in the world." Another guy, call him lndr, did better than that!

It was all bull of course, but it did make me wonder just how tight a gun could be made to shoot trap-loads at 40 yards. That lead me to the friendliest site which was, if possible, less reality based than the three claims I just cited, but there was likely something there. It just didn't seem possible that all these guys were kidding themselves about something so easy to check as a letter being blown out or pellets being counted.

I checked around and finally met, on line, Denny Tubbs of Gun Works. He was understandably wary at first; he had been on line and knew that it was not a place to risk your reputation on.

But we got together and he built me a card gun biased for the shells we shoot (and they don't). So he didn't guarantee anything beyond his pledge that he would do his best.

I ran out of survivable weather before I could test the whole rig, but what it have done tells me that that yes, this is the undisputed record-holder of tightness among my guns. It's a pattern difference you can actually see and that's a record right there!

But that's not the whole story. Besides being a record-breaking performer, it's a wonderful gun. The action is perfectly smooth, the trigger (though heavier than I like) is at the very top end of feel, lack of creep (zero) , and "snappiness." The fit and finish are flawless, and it just radiates performance.

I've bought custom guns from Europe and America, plenty of them. This Gunworks Ithaca is a match for any of them in quality, workmanship, and a commitment to giving my money's worth. It's a high, high quality shotgun, obviously made by someone who cares. I look at it now and wonder "Who would have guessed that Upper Sandusky is where something like this could be born?"

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I'll never use it for its intended purpose, but once it is wrung out in pattern testing it will have moved the goal-line for custom barrel work and then, with a new barrel, it will turn into a slug gun for Minnesota deer in the woods up north in the hands of a friend.

Neil

Have fun, shoot well, and don't read any target-breaks out there!
 

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shot410ga, we have a shoot coming up 3-2-13. I will try to get some pictures of the tie & winning cards posted for you. The pictures of the gun was my first time posting a picture & it takes me awhile to get it figured out, but I will see what I can do. Danny
 

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i_shoot, I think my results will be best presented in context, that is, with Briley XF and various "turkey tubes" so the comparisons will mean something to the reader.

I hope to get around to it fairly soon. Thanks for asking, though.

Neil
 
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