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Can you love shooting and NOT be Conservative?

Here's my question to my fellow trapshooters:

I am surprised at the lack of liberally-based arguments on this site and have seriously wondered if people believe it possible to be a trapshooter & hunter without being a Republican.

Your thoughts and opinions would be much appreciated as I'm an analyst by nature and love a good poll. Thanks in advance.
 

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I love shooting, hunting, fishing, generally being outdoors; yet I consider myself somewhat of a Libertarian... not quite in right field... but not left field either.

I know that's a non-answer to your question... but I don't really find myself fitting well with either major party.
 

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I just heard that you have to fill out some questions to work for the new administration. There were questions about whether you own a gun, it's use and registration. This is not a pro-gun administration. I still remember his statement about people clinging to their Bibles and guns. I don't see how anyone that loves to shoot can side with those that will try everything in their power to attack the second amendment. He will probably get to appoint someone to the Supreme Court. It will not be someone that is pro gun. I also heard today they want rules to put child locks on all guns. Americans still don't know the mistake they made on election day. They will.
 

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Basically I hunt and shoot trap, sporting clays, mostly Republican and Swing to Independent as I voted for Perot, I think I spelled that right.

The problem with this last election and most elections is lack of responsible and honest dedicated politicians, selection was Poor this election.

Taking prayer and allegence to the flag out of the school is what we are expierencing now.

Prayer and honoring our country flag, and In God We Trust on our coins and Bills is what our country was founded on.

It is also a tribute to our fine men and women in uniform defending our country.

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I think it's more of a conservative vs. liberal thing, than Republican vs. Democrat.

As 100Straight mentions, the National Republican Party has move left of center, because it's run by Rockefeller Republicans who want to sidle up to Democrats. At the top of the Republican party are too many people who look at politics as staying in the loop and having some sort of power.

The best thing to happen would be to nuke everything inside the "Beltway" and start over. What an inhuman infestation, that place.

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Dennis,

I agree and change the wording of my question to 'Conservative' instead of 'Republican'--it's more accurate. Thanks for the clarification.

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Yes it does happen. I have a good friend that is an active life long Democrat and a competive handgun shooter as well as CCW permit holder. This guy is intelligent, has a phD and makes a good living. He is a great conversationalist and we manage to discuss our differing views without resorting to personal attacks. Turns out our differences are not as great as our simularities. Think what you will but these people aren't our enemies and if we are truly interested in preserving the 2nd amendment we must have the support of these americans - think about that next time you feel the need to degrade a person because of their partizanship.
 

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While it is true that not all Republicans promote conservative ideals it is true that all Democrats promote liberal ideals. Some are not smart enough to realize that but it doesn't change the truth. When you vote for Democrats you are also voting for their party leadership and their ideals. You can try to separate the two but it is only in your head. The party in power sets the agenda. Democrats are now in power and they will have a liberal agenda. People still don't know what they have done with the last election. They will.
 

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It's not a matter of Dem or Republican. It's a matter of defending and believing in, and adhering to the Constitution. Not perfect, but still the best available form of government in the world. And, if it's changed it is to be done by a majority of the people, not self-effected bureaucratic rule makers.

The obvious answer is that the Republican party used to be the stalwart defender of the Constitution - sadly, this is no longer true.

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Here is the Party with a platform that best defends the Constitution of the United States, in my opinion. (see link above)

Shoot well and often,

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I seemingly always end up voting republican. The democrats simply support too many causes I can't. I am more conservative than almost anyone I have ever supported, but then I am the only one who is perfect, so thats to be expected.
 

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There are two reasons for people to vote for liberal Democrats. They either want something from the government or they want the government to take something from someone else that has more than them. It is true that Bush fought terrorism. It is also true that under his leadership after 9-11 (a bombing planned during the Clinton Administration) we have not been attacked. Clinton waged war in Somalia and Yugoslavia. He also carried out attacks in other countries. Hussein Obama will get far more killed than 4000 soldiers. He will get soldiers killed in other countries and civilians killed in this country. Stick around Flincher. I want you to be here during the whole Carter II administration. The trillions of dollars of new spending they have planned for the economy will also backfire. Then top it off with "free" health care and college educations. You are going to see government spending like you couldn't have imagined, even being the lib that you are. I don't know how I will be able to go hunting without a gun or a vehicle that uses fossil fuels. Even with a wind generator and a solar panel on the roof.
 

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100straight had it pretty close to the truth. The 4000 that died in combat had a lot more honor in their passing than the thousands who died on our highways each year, or the hundreds that die in cities who will not allow you the luxury of defending yourself (over 500 a year murdered in Chicago). If people want to bitch about things that happened to the constitution, don't blame it on George, blame it on congress. They pass the laws, including the Patriot Act. A majority of them voted for the Patriot Act or it never would have gotten to the Presidents desk.
Most of the anti-gun legislation is passed by Democratic congresses. For that reason alone, I could never vote for a democratic congress. I vote for some people locally who run under the Democratic banner because they have values that I know are really conservative. And they follow through in a conservative manner. I would never vote straight Republican ticket because I research all of the people running in my state and local area. If you don't bother to check out the candidates, don't vote.
 

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I vote straight Republican. Not because all Republicans are conservative, but all Democrats have signed on to a far left liberal platform with liberal leaders pushing liberal agendas. A vote for a Democrat, any Democrat, is a vote for Pelosi, Reid, Obama and liberal Supreme Court Justices. We did not go into Iraq because of weapons of mass destruction. That is how the media spun it. Voting for Democrats is voting for more gun restrictions.
 

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This issue about WMDs is amazing to me. Every time I hear a liberal bring up WMDs it just makes me sick in disbelief concerning their ignorance. We KNOW he had them. I put a link above for those that are able to read. Every world leader acknowledged that fact, even though some felt it wasn't enough to justify disarming him. He used both chemical and biological weapons against the Kurds. We weren't sure about nukes, but nobody ever said we were. The issue should not be that we did not FIND the WMDs. The issue that should concern us is; WHERE did the WMDs go?

Shoot well and often,

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And there's those 50,000,000 babies that have been killed since 1974. Morals aside, those 50,000,000 paying 15% of all they earn into social security would have gone a long way to keeping it solvent.
 

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You are right tripod. Liberals shouldn't bring up 4000 dead soldiers. Not when there are a million babies killed each year. Not when the liberal agenda pushed promiscuity and a homosexual agenda that lead to the deaths of millions through aids around the world. Not when a left-wing agenda that was soft on crime let thousands of criminals loose each year to kill again. Not when the left destroyed countless families with failed government programs. Not when left-wing morality poisoned the minds of our children through our media. Not after the millions that have been killed by socialist and communist dictators throughout the world for decades. The left has so much blood on their hands that they should never dare to bring up 4000 dead soldiers who died fighting terrorism to protect America and free a few million people from a brutal dictator giving them a true chance at democracy and freedom. The left always sides with criminals, Marxists, abortionists and Muslim fanatics all around the world. Their minds are polluted. Liberalism truly is a self-destructive brain disorder.
 
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