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Buying a older kreighoff k80

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#1 ·
I've been shooting clays for about six months. I've went thru the gun buying bug to trying different brands. My latest purchase was a 725 sporting. One of the guys that's been coaching me along was shooting a 2022 model k80 he let me shoot it. I wouldn't say I fell in love but it was definitely easy for me to shoot. I have ran across a 99 model k80 32" barrels six titanium chokes it does have some handling wear for $6500. For its age and price does thus sound like a fair deal is there any questions i need to ask before purchasing and doing a ffl transfer? One thing I know, is knowing the name it can be serviced and repaired by several facilities. I feel like this would be a good start into a high end shotgun at a fair price.
 

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#3 ·
I’d have someone knowledgeable about Krieghoff’s inspect it before I bought it. Perhaps have a Krieghoff dealer like Robert Paxton/Paxton Arms, John Herkowitz/PSA, Tim Ward/duPont, or Krieghoff International, etc. look it over? Price is good but I’d want and pay for the piece of mind.
 
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I would see if you can shoot a round or two with the shotgun. Before deciding on whether or not you want to buy the shotgun. Then ask the seller the last time the shotgun was serviced, after your finished shooting. If the gun has not been serviced in the last 5 years. Tell him the shotgun needs a $500 dollar service. Then offer him 6 grand for the gun. See what he/she says. You can always go back to the $6,500 dollar price. Its worth $6,500 IMO easily if the shotgun works properly when you give it a test drive. Make sure the ejectors work together in unison. That the primers on spent shells have deep hits. The trigger works smoothly. Try shooting both barrels first. Do hold the shotgun tight to your shoulder, and make sure the gun does not double fire on you. After you shoot a round or two, I expect you'll have your own answer to your question above?

You can have the stock refinished for a few hundred dollars. Any damage to the wood could be repaired, to the point it would be almost impossible to see the old damage. So if the bluing looks nice? Your good to go. Good Luck to Ya. break em all Jeff
 
#9 ·
Do your research, are these the barrels you want, stock/forend you want.... etc. It's a sporting gun, are you shooting sporting clays and five stand or going to use it for trap?
Price is fair but if it isn't what you want don't invest your money into something that isn't what you really want. There are many good dealers out there that will help you find the right gun at the right price. Find a shooter that has a K-gun and ask them for help.
 
#10 · (Edited)
That gun has been used quite a bit and in my opinion is priced quite high. I would ask a few additional questions:

1- Back in '99 they would come with matching numbers. Not like today where you pick your receiver, barrels, wood and the dealer will put it all together for you. Is it a matching #s gun? Receiver, forend iron and barrels.
2- Because the forend iron is distinctly a different tone than the receiver, find out if it is a lightweight receiver (aluminum with a titanium breach face insert) or a steel receiver.
3- The forend iron is loosing or has lost quite a bit of nickle finish. Why? A refinish of forend iron and receiver is not an inexpensive endeavor.
4- The top latch has a very small gap left to the top barrel closing. This is an indicator of a rebuild soon. Costly expense.
5- That wood is a newer style checkering pattern so it is not original to the gun. Who fit it? Was it properly bedded? Look at the area where the top latch slides back. You can plainly see it is chewed up by the top latch although it does look to be properly aligned with this gun. Probably damaged from a previous gun.

You asked for opinions, I'd say it's quite overpriced. Me personally, I would steer clear and find another. Just not worth the potential monies involved for a complete overhaul and for the current condition of this gun.

Good luck and good shooting, Rey
 
#11 ·
That gun has been used quite a bit and in my opinion is priced quite high. I would ask a few additional questions:

1- Back in '99 they would come with matching numbers. Not like today where you pick your receiver, barrels, wood and the dealer will put it all together for you. Is it a matching #s gun? Receiver, forend iron and barrels.
2- Because the forend iron is distinctly a different tone than the receiver, find out if it is a lightweight receiver (aluminum with a titanium breach face insert) or a steel receiver.
3- The forend is loosing or has lost quite a bit of nickle finish. Why? A refinish of forend iron and receiver is not an inexpensive endeavor.
4- The top latch has a very small gap left to the top barrel closing. This is an indicator of a rebuild soon. Costly expense.
5- That wood is a newer style checkering pattern so it is not original to the gun. Who fit it? Was it properly bedded? Look at the area where the top latch slides back. You can plainly see it is chewed up by the top latch although it does look to be properly aligned with this gun. Probably damaged from a previous gun.

You asked for opinions, I'd say it's quite overpriced. Me personally, I would steer clear and find another. Just not worth the potential monies involved for a complete overhaul and for the current condition of this gun.

Good luck and good shooting, Rey
Look at the last picture I see no wear on the receiver finish and the metal matches. The first picture is heavily shadowed the top latch gap shows there is still 1/3 the original gap the stock wood has been changed to a nicer piece of wood I personally would consider that an upgrade. It Shure was to the original owner. With all that said where are you going to find a k80 in this good of shape for that little? in my area that would easily be a 10,000 dollar gun.
 
#14 ·
Are your shooting trap or sporting clays? That’s a sporting clays gun like your 725, and if you shooters sporting, go for it. If you shoot trap, I wouldn’t buy it just because it’s a Krieghoff. I saw the gun in your pictures on the dealer’s website (I won’t mention where so no one runs and buys the gun you’re thinking about) and I think it is a good deal for the money. If I didn’t already have a K80 Sporter, I would think very hard about buying that gun because of the price. It’s not in perfect shape, but there’s nothing on it that can’t be redone or fixed.

Good luck with your decision!
 
#15 ·
If you are happy with the configuration and condition, its a good deal. However, by the time you have the ears welded, barrels reblued, receiver and iron renickeled, and wood refinished you'll be into it for more than you'd have paid for one in excellent condition.

In other words, it's basically a $7000 gun being sold for $7000 (factoring in sales tax), not especially the deal of a lifetime considering the condition.

I came across this gun right after it was listed a few days ago, and briefly thought about it, but it looked a bit rough from the pics they'd posted, and the ones you posted make it look a bit rougher yet.

Like Reyper mentioned, it seems to be a bit of a put-together gun, as the wood is definitely newer than the metal. It looks like the barrels have the older (and less desirable) 12x8 rib, which makes it more likely at least the metal all matches, but you'd have to check to be sure.
 
#23 ·
There’s a simple solution for that. Keep a folder with receipts and history just like most of us do with our vehicles. Can’t get any better than real provenance when disclosing history. Would be nice to hear back from the OP on the many constructive comments he’s been offered. His first post today after 16 months since joining. Good shooting everyone, Rey
 
#26 ·
From what you can see in the OP's photos, unless you know the history, it would be safe to assume that if you buy this K80, you should plan on putting another $1k into it i.e. a fresh annual, fit the barrels/top latch/FE iron and refinish the stock. At this point you would have a great gun that was 100% ready to go for many years to come and at still a very good price.
 
#27 ·
Trust "Reyper" and his reply...

Looks like an OK deal if you shoot it well and love it.

If its been worked on (butchered) by a non-Kgun gunsmith, you can be looking at big repair bills.

If you aren't familiar with them,I would recommend an inspection.

If no big issues,I'd say an OK deal, certainly not a steal.

The forend iron and wood that doesn't match would raise questions.

Paul in Virginia
 
#30 ·
Well I bought it and I'm going to see how it goes to get my feet wet with a kreighoff. I understand it's older and may need some work but something for me to learn with and a work horse of a gun. Thanks everyone for the input I'll be sure to reply back with further pics and questions when I get it in my hands. Thank you fellas