Rem. I have a new model for 2 yrs now, and shoot it all the time, and i have had older models in the past, no the new ones are not as nice as the older ones, but the perform equally as well, they are bored to .740, lengthen forceing cones, invector + tubes, on the down side, no engraving not quiet as slick finish, but the worst part, and i found out by having a release trigger installed by Spears, that the trigger assembly has a lot of aluminum parts, which he replaced with steel parts while installing the release trigger, I even have the much malined adjustable comb, which i have had no trouble with, just dont strongarm the adjusting screw over tighting it, As stated before, I truely believe they are the best value for your trapshooting dollar, new or used, if your watching you dollars. Try one, you'll like it. good shooting and smokum. Big Jim