I wonder why the pattern percentage for everything except the Extra-full trap choke has a 30% pattern variance? I remember Neil Winston's work almost always showing about a 10% range, but 30%?

 

All I know is when I bought all my extra Midas Grade Chokes back in the 2005-2006 time frame for my 525. Briley did not make a Extra Full choke for the Midas Grade line. Neither did Browning. Since Briley made all their chokes back then. Briley only made Cylinder through Full chokes in the Midas Grade line. I have broke lots of targets 80 yards and beyond with my Midas Full choke. I have used nothing but my Midas Grade chokes from my 525, for my BT-100 shotgun. I have used Light Mod though Full over the years.

I like them so Much!!!! I even had Briley make me some Midas Grade chokes for my Beretta Urika Gold Sporting 391 in 12 ga.!!! With the Beretta Optima threads instead of the Invector Plus threads. I couldn't be happier with them. I am so happy with them, I am about to Order the same Midas Grade chokes for my Beretta 391 Urika Gold Sporting in 20ga. from Briley!!!

Now, do you really feel the need to worry about 5 thousandths of a inch???

I'd rather just buy Winchester AA ammo, and forget about my chokes. I do like the Gold Bling on the end of my Barrels. If you Haven't Noticed by Now????
It matches the Urika Gold Sporting clay 391's every nicely. These shotguns have the engraving with all the Gold Lettering and the Gold Beretta Emblem. Then I added the Gold Tipped mag barrel weights, Gold Closer button, and Gold Bolt Handle. To finish off the Look, I had Briley make the Gold Ring Extended chokes!!! At Least Now, I look Real Good, when I Miss a Target!!! LOL. break em all Jeff

 

All I know is when I bought all my extra Midas Grade Chokes back in the 2005-2006 time frame for my 525. Briley did not make a Extra Full choke for the Midas Grade line. Neither did Browning. Since Briley made all their chokes back then. Briley only made Cylinder through Full chokes in the Midas Grade line. I have broke lots of targets 80 yards and beyond with my Midas Full choke. I have used nothing buy my Midas Grade chokes from my 525, for my BT-100 shotgun. I have used Light Mod though Full over the years.

I like them so Much!!!! I even had Briley make me some Midas Grade chokes for my Beretta Urika Gold Sporting 391 in 12 ga.!!! With the Beretta Optima threads instead of the Invector Plus threads. I couldn't be happier with them. I am so happy with them, I am about to Order the same Midas Grade chokes for my Beretta 391 Urika Gold Sporting in 20ga. from Briley!!!

Now, do you really feel the need to worry about 5 thousandths of a inch???

I'd rather just buy Winchester AA ammo, and forget about my chokes. I do like the Gold Bling on the end of my Barrels. If you Haven't Noticed by Now????
It matches the Urika Gold Sporting clay 391's every nicely. These shotguns have the engraving with all the Gold Lettering and the Gold Beretta Emblem. Then I added the Gold Tipped mag barrel weights, Gold Closer button, and Gold Bolt Handle. To finish off the Look, I had Briley make the Gold Ring Extended chokes!!! At Least Now, I look Real Good, when I Miss a Target!!! LOL. break em all Jeff

Thanks for that Jeff, I definitely am not considering them for the bling factor- My new CXT that is on it way already has Midas chokes with it so would make sense if I decided to get the extra full.If it was 10% better than the full it would be worth it so I was just seeing if anyone has compared them although I do know it’s case by case thing.. Regards, Jimmie

 

I am wondering if anyone has compared the Midas full choke to the extra full as far as patterns go? Does the extra full have a more dense pattern at distance.I know it’s load/ gun specific but just seeing if anyone has real world experience with them.Mainly looking at 40+ yard usage. Thank you, Jimmie

If you are wanting the highest hit probability for long range targets (40+ yards) then yes you'll want to move up to the XF choke....and generally speaking you'll want hard shot as well. Federal Top Guns or Estate Competition would be great shells that fit that bill and are reasonable on the wallet.

 

I purchased the X-Full last season prior to some shooting buddies and I going to shoot some international trap. We went and shot a few rounds of it and what a humbling experience but fun it was. It was recommend from guys on here and at the club to have. I used it but can’t say that it made a difference vs. the full. I never patterned it. But I did have targets that I had to break with the second shot and had it in and broke them.
To me it’s worth having, buy it at the best price you can find. At the other end of the spectrum pick up a cylinder also, at least one. I think you’ll find the X-Full might come handy if guys at the club come up with some types of odd game shoots that you’ll need the full or X-Full to touch them. I do want to put mine on paper and compare them.

 

I am wondering if anyone has compared the Midas full choke to the extra full as far as patterns go? Does the extra full have a more dense pattern at distance.

As a matter of fact I recently did this. Not in an ultra-scientific way with a large sample size of 15+ patterns, etc., but I had bought a Midas extra-full for handicaps and wanted to see it with my own eyes compared to the Midas full. Gun in question is a 34" BT-99.

I got some very large (pallet size) sheets of cardboard and did two shots each with full and X-full chokes at 42 yards. Each choke got one shot with Top Gun 7.5 @ 1,200, and another shot with AA 7.5 @ 1,200.

I wish I'd have saved the cardboard for you to take pictures, and/or counted pellets, but all it took was one glance to see that there was "a difference" between chokes. The X-full clearly had more pellets in the pattern and more density in the center, both with cheaper Top Gun and premium AA loads.

I know that's not scientific at the same level of some of the extraordinary analyses regularly posted on this forum, but it was enough for me to see a difference with my own eyes. It wasn't a huge difference, but it was significant enough that I didn't have to count holes.

Of course I realize that I shouldn't be surprised that "choking a gun tightens the pattern" (duh) but I was curious to see if I reached a point of diminishing (or negative) marginal returns when jumping from F to XF.

In my opinion, it's worth you buying an XF and trying for yourself if you're a long-range handicap shooter. Or if you frequent a sporting clays course where they occasionally like to frustrate you with a 40+ yard edge-on mini.

 

Thank you, That is pretty darn much what I was looking for and was hoping to hear. Thank you for reply, Jimmie

 

Thanks Spanky, Yes it would be used for when the games get way behind the trap house. In the past full chokes have worked fairly well but I probably should try an xtra full. If you do any pattern testing please post the results. Thanks, Jimmie

 

The next time I go to COSTCO with the old lady I’ll pick up some cardboard slip sheets and pattern it.
I had mentioned about the cylinder tubes but didn’t realize at the time you were shooting a CXT-XT. You’ll probably never use that. Don’t hesitate to pick up a Lt. Full if you see one floating around cheap. I use that more than full because my handicap yardage is short. Most of the time I have to shoot that sportsman class (21, 22, or 23 yds) generally they call it that. I just picked up a Midas Spreader for rabbits. Used but looks like new. Can’t wait for a close rabbit station to try it. I could be wrong on price but bought my X-Full new on line from Bud’s and it was $41.00, pretty sure. Didn’t think it was a steal but a lot better than I thought price was for it factory new.
I’m not a Choke Tube Expert, I don’t have any complaints with the Midas Series. I’ve put a lot of lead and wads through the Silver Stainless Browning/Briley Extended Sporting type tubes also. I have no complaints with that series either.
Any problem I have shooting is certainly not the choke tubes, the wooden block between my shoulder blades.

 

I used a .40 Midas grade Extra Full in my BT 99 and averaged 92.66 from the 27 for the 12 months in our trap club and I thought it performed very well.